• baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de
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      we need something free and open, instead of moving from being dominated by one country to being dominated by another country

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      24 hours ago

      Isn’t HarmonyOS closed? I’d rather not jump from a bad ship to a worse one

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        It is like Android, mixed source. Android is based on the open source AOSP project. HarmonyOS is based on the open source OpenHarmony project. Kaihong has released laptops that uses its own OpenHarmony distribution.

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          Closed = very bad

          Android is open source, so you can at least make your fork and find a way to load it on phones that support bootloader unlocking, while harmony is closed so you cannot do that which is objectively worse

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            As others have said harmony is setup exactly the same as android, open source OS on which a closed source customized flavor is built. It’s exactly as bad or not bad as android is in this regard. The flavor being in control of a Chinese corporation instead of an American one is another issue.

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            That’s reasonable thank you. I suppose I always took androids open source nature to be largely “theoretical”(?) given googles controlling stake and simply the nature of the mobile market where effectively every android device is running googles proprietary version. HarmonyOS is in reality in the same boat given it has OpenHarmony in parallel to HarmonyOS in the same way AOSP is parallel to Android.

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    I mean… yeah? US blocked sales of damn near every US component to Huawei. What else were they going to do besides not use US components?

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      The point here, which evidently went over your head, is that China now has the technological capability and supply chains to produce cutting edge electronics domestically end to end. No other country, including the US itself, is able to do that.

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        Oh good grief why are you always so combative? I’m well aware that it’s clearly an accomplishment - but it’s also their only option besides go out of business so I don’t know what the US expected to happen.

        Also erm… no, they aren’t end-to-end domestically produced:

        The South China Morning Post noted Huawei is reducing reliance on advanced foreign semiconductor equipment

        More interestingly, while the Kirin is considerably less dependent on US or Western tech, it doesn’t remove it from the equation entirely, and you still have to look closely at the bill of materials for receipts.

        SMIC’s process, however, still leverages ASML immersion scanners.

        They’re getting there, but if we go by what’s in the article they don’t have that capability yet.

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          Your original comment essentially read like a bad reddit style anti-china argument. Like, “these dumb chinese people would have never figured out to do this if the US didn’t force them to! No need to give those asians any credit!”

          It is now obvious you wrote it from the perspective of “duh, why is anyone in the west acting surprised? They literally have no other option besides dying”

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    This company is currently embroiled in ip theft legal issues and it’s not looking good for them.

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      embroiled

      Anyone and any company can get ‘embroiled’ in anything.
      All it takes is accusing you of being a thief a pedo or whatever.
      And there you have Brkdncr ‘embroiled’ in a pedo case.

      This is nothing but the US sore losers using dirty tricks because they can’t compete in the free market they love so much.
      Always with this excuse or national security/espionage.
      Pathetic