I joined reddit during the great digg migration
almost a decade agoa hell of a lot longer than that ago. Joined Lemmy a few years ago but it wasn’t quite scratching that itch.Finally made the switch to https://old.lemmy.world/ (and changed my default sort to be “new comments”) while I am at work and I got to say - its working, I feel like I am going back to old reddit when I take my breaks and it was really just the habit and familiarity of the layout that kept me going back there.
Possible upside when they eventually fully kill old.reddit - it will probably mean another influx (small by their standards, big by ours) of users here.
API stubborness is one thing, but a direct, major, in-your-face degradation of the UX will certainly bother more people.
old. user here. You might notice that some features are only on the regular interface. For instance reporting and some settings.
Today I learned there’s an old.lemmy.world. Regular lemmy.world looked good enough that I never bothered digging deeper. Thanks for the heads up.
That place is swarming with nazi bots and their app doesn’t even work 75% of the time.
It’s dead.
They know that the current round of mods will leave once they make another major change so theyve already been testing the waters with AI mods so the entire site is admin and mod AI bots.
I don’t know if this will be a controversial statement, but with a few exceptions, I can’t imagine an AI mod on reddit being any worse than a human mod on reddit. At worst it’s a wash, but I’m leaning towards it being a net improvement.
The AI admins are much worse, they cannot detect tone or sarcasm or context so will ban you if you say the wrong words in a post about CEOs.
I have definitely been banned for sarcastic comments taken literally. Hell, I was banned once for quoting JFK, in context, for advocating violence.
I’m still not convinced it will be any worse. Luckily, I don’t really have to worry about it anymore.
That’s exactly how human mods operate. Human mods tend to be the “zero tolerance, zero thought” types.
Depends on the subreddit. Some are major filled with Israeli bots. (Not literal nazi bots, but I assume that’s what you meant), others aren’t.
When they started requiring a login to use old. I just stopped going to the site altogether. I made an account here specifically so I could start blocking some of the reddit repost communities, cuz I’m just over it and tired of being reminded of that cesspool.
I hope they do kill old. I hope it means there’s a small influx of users here when it happens.
The quote for those who don’t feel like clicking through:
In order to protect our platform, business, and users from abusive scraping and spamming, over time we plan to make changes involving Old Reddit, the legacy desktop web experience for Reddit that was built 21 years ago. In the short term, we will continue to require users to be logged in to access it and will work on migrating critical bots and moderator workflows to our modern stack. These efforts will help us mitigate the bad behavior and give us time to plan the complex follow-up steps.
Reads to me as “we are sick and tired of bots freely scraping our content without paying us”, wrapped up somehow as “gotta protect our users”. Meanwhile, they clearly do not care about humans having open access to information. But hey, that’s just my take.
Frustrating especially to see the shade thrown at the ‘21 year old design’ that’s still head and shoulders over anything they’ve been able to design since. (I guess. Haven’t really been there in a handful of years, but I assume it’s kept getting worse.)
"we are sick and tired of bots freely scraping our content without paying us
Given the whole API debacle you’re almost certainly right.
Oh yes, the bot spam coming from non logged in users is a serious problem, totally get it.
Love that they don’t allow comments on blog posts, because they know its just going to be a bunch of ppl saying fuck spez
Oh well. Fark had a good run. Reddit’s had a good run. Someday Lemmy will have had a good run.
'Tis the way of things.
Platform gets popular. Sub mods are powertripping bastards and don’t know how to handle the influx. Ban all the good guys. Leave all the bad actors. Things start to go to shit. Owners/operators behind the scene are also powertripping bastards and react to the chaos by having knee jerk reactions and locking the platform down, which drives the userbase away. The end. New platform.
Lemmy is a little more immune to it on a sitewide basis, but I’m seeing the enshittification of individual subs accelerate already.
Seems like a pretty human pattern - “This looks like a good place to propagate my POV. Anybody I don’t agree with gets kicked.”
To a point, intolerance paradox and all that.
Ever since they announced the ‘new’ Reddit, it was pretty obvious the old Reddit would be killed eventually. It’s taking even longer than I actually believed.
Now, the funny thing about it, is the typical hypocrisy surrounding these American companies. First it didn’t just allowed, it fully embraced the scraping and AI bots, and now they call it ‘bad behavior’ and want to prohibit it just so they can be the sole people to use it there (or to charge other companies to allow them to do that).
And maybe I’m being naive, but it feels to me that Reddit is slowly digging it’s own grave. I don’t believe that there’s actually that many people using it nowdays, when pretty much all discussions there are either a) toxic people, full of themselves, fighting over stupid brands and predatory companies; b) stupid memes; c) bots faking they’re not bots, or ads faking they’re not ads; and d) information that has already been scraped or that was written by AI bots, or that just doesn’t hold any real value anymore.
Reddit used, a long time ago, to be a place where actual useful information was posted and good wikis or megathreads were created, curating these information (even though you actually had to some digging to get there sometimes). Nowadays it’s an echo chamber of the most useless shit internet has to offer, and all the good data has been moved or copied to somewhere else. But that’s what happens when you start to treat the same users that built the whole value of the platform as collateral trash.
As of today, almost all political and news content is gone from both the front page and /r/all.
This is part of the larger effort to censor and control the audience. It appears to be working.
Pretty sure it may have been your feed, because about 33% of my front page and /r/all are political (slightly more on /r/all at this point).
Not that it matters all that much to me. The reddit hive mind tolerates precisely one political voice, and angrily shouts down anyone outside of the orthodoxy including people very, very near to them in most/all issues but not total perfect alignment. If Reddit proper were serious about turning things around, the first thing they would do is rethink the account BS they just pulled, and the second would be using their pretty decent fingerprinting techniques against supermods to ensure nobody can mod more than 5 subreddits (and site-wide ban evaders). The third would be to ban instances of auto mod being used to preemptively auto ban people for engaging in subreddits (or previously using key words) they don’t like.
I miss the old reddit. The reddit built by and for tech enthusiasts and tech pros instead of it being a political launchpad.
I’m just looking at https://redlib.catsarch.com/, which is a privacy focused API parsing of /r/All - allows you to view without logging in or providing any info to the algo. Political content took a dive roughly 3 weeks ago, right around the time they locked down /r/all. It’s pretty much all memes and AITA dramajerk subs now, at least to an outside viewer.
