• Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.

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      2 months ago

      Plenty of the young generation are dumb as fuck as well. Trump didn’t win just by getting the boomer vote.

      Plenty of morons out there from all walks of life.

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      I’d like to believe that most of the dumb stuff you see posted online is by bots trying to draw suckers to their echo chambers.

      Unfortunately, I’ve met too many of the idiots in real life, they’re definitely not all bots.

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        Yes, but the line of thinking originates there, and they were programmed to be more hateful and stupid than they ever would have been in a pre-zuck era.

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          Programming people to be hateful and stupid goes waaaaaay back before Zuck and Xitter. The Spanish-American War is a pretty solid example, but there are so many others.

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      Maybe, but I wouldn’t be leaving those comments for real women, either. E-girls existed long before AI did. What do these guys think is going to happen? Are these the dudes who go to strip clubs and think that the dancer is going to go home with them?

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    At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.

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      I went through a few of those videos. Could not notice any artifact. If I had to evaluate myself I’d say it is actresses.

      Really not easy to say those videos are made by AI.

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    Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?

    They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.

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          Our university’s IT team actually pushed for this last year. AI to generate assignments… students get their own AI to do the assignments… then back to faculty AI to grade andngive feedback… all built into Blackboard and Canvas…

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    Boomers think supernatural creatures control our fate. Why would we expect them to be capable of determining fiction from reality?

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    I ran into a Discord where the sole topic was running hot girl “AI influencers” on Instagram. Literally hundreds of thousands of people thirsted over them, and the operaters made real money.

    Their systems were pretty sophisticated. The whole process is automated; LLMs write the posts and do sexy DMs, imagegen and videogen models and such do the sexy images and videos, controlnet keeps the look consistent-enough between media. LLM agents press all the buttons. I think there may have even been OnlyFans stuff.

    So a single operator could run dozens of bots.

    …It’s not hard for these models, either. DMs and short Insta posts are stupidly simple language, and media of sexy people in clothes, doing insta-style poses, probably makes up most of the image/video model training corpus.

    I think there was some engagement farming with other bots, of course, but it would snowball and turn organic. Real Instagram users were thirsting over these bots.


    …It got me thinking.

    Is it really that different from a parasocial relationship with a “real” influencer?

    I mean, functionally, its exactly the same. The users can’t even tell the difference.


    I posit that the whole “thirst” influencer system was broken and exploitive to everyone involved, except Facebook.

    It was fucked up to begin with.

    AI just made it more obvious to onlookers. It destroyed the pretense that any of it was “real.”

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      What a lot of people fail to realize is that the whole industry is based on selling a fantasy. It’s no different then getting the girl friend experience from a prostitute. I don’t think there’s a meaningful difference between a real person and an AI in these industries.

      IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.

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        IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.

        +1. But I wonder how many know it’s an illusion.

        I’m the wrong person to analyze this though, as I do not get why people engage in these services. Like, I get roleplaying, I’ve daydreamed or even written out long fantasies, but why would I (for example) pay for some girl to talk it out on the phone?

        …Much less gawk at some influencer on Insta?

        What’s the point?

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    I mean most of the influencer bullshit is artificial engagement anyway. People playing a role to entertain, gain attention, make money. If you look at porn comments, they are all dumb so it wouldn’t surprise me that the boomers leaving comments are similarly dumb “roleplaying”, knowing that this is just a fantasy sharing between gooners. They might simply not care if it’s real or not.

    Personally I don’t get it, but whatever.

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          Well, lol. Theoretically with VR headsets and cyberdildonics like automatic fleshlights / masturbators it could come pretty close with the current technology. The kind of looks and environment and dirty talk you want. Obviously it would still be limited.

          So AI generated VR porn with cyberdildonics actually could make much of sex work redundant. Theoretically this is a good thing. No human should have to do sex work or porn or onlyfans just for money to survive, if they don’t genuinely enjoy doing it. (EDIT)

          China already regulated this so that AI chat bots must not create addiction. It’s probably a wise course to follow lol.

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            So AI generated VR porn with cyberdildonics actually could make much of sex work redundant.

            I doubt that the technology is there. Or, if it is, it’s prohibitively expensive.

            Theoretically this is a good thing. No human needs to do sex work or porn or onlyfans just for money if they don’t genuinely enjoy doing it.

            You honestly don’t believe that there are sex workers who are relying on their job for a paycheck? Why?

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              You honestly don’t believe that there are sex workers who are relying on their job for a paycheck? Why?

              No human should have to do sex work …

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                  Yes, promotional mascots. Also maybe portable toilet cleaners. Roadkill collector? Crime scene cleaners? Broadcaster definitely. Restroom attendant also.

                  But seriously, do you think this is a controversial view? Do you think parents want (EDIT: their adult) children or friends to have to do sex work? Would anybody go “oh wow I’m so proud of you”? I do not think so. So lowering the demand and therefor supply pressure is overall a societal good.

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    I watched the three video clips and would not have initially guessed the leotard gymnast and the mechanic are generated. The sad gymnast looks a little plastic.

    What actually looks fake in the mechanic video after a couple loops is the valve notches on the pistons, which are rotated from the correct orientation, and overlapping in a way that the laws of physics would not support.

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      I wonder, like others here, whether or not the same people posting the AI generated images aren’t also posting responses to make it look as if the images are convincing people they are real… those “life-like” response posts can make the images themselves more convincing, to some people.

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        Oh you don’t have to wonder. It is shilling and is just about as old as time.

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      I’ve been chewing out boomers I know who read off ai summaries. They don’t even notice the ai summary label.

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    One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??

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    I think the bigger issue is 65+ guys perving on girls young enough to be their daughters. Old guys who think they are still 25 and have game.

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      My father has been very insistent on having a health insurance plan that could have a spouse added because he is sure one of the thirst traps he sends gift cards to is going to marry him. My sister had to have a conversation with him about not looking at nudes on his phone while visiting his grandkids.

      Ugh. The only consolation my sister and I have is that at least no actual young women are being harassed by him.

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    We have to start adopting more accurate terminology for demographics. Most boomers are in their 70s and 80s. The ‘boomer’ shortcut has outlived it’s usefulness. I’m a ‘young’ boomer at 68.

    I saw a lot of these so-called boomers at J6. Except that they were in their 30s and 40s. Boomers ain’t scaling walls no more.