• la508@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    I don’t really think it’s the press’s fault. I think America simply doesn’t give a shit anymore. They seem to be completely inured to the crime, corruption, fascism, blatant lies, performative cruelty, election interference, embarrassment on the global stage, etc.

    It’s very peculiar.

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      26 days ago

      I’m sure it seems like that from the outside. There’s so many of us inside that are fully sick of this, but we also all feel helpless for a number of reasons.

      Nobody wants to be alone in making the first move of outward revolution.

      None of us can afford to take a week off, much less the foreseeable future off to plan and execute any kind of meaningful action.

      Once we lose our job from participating in said action, we don’t have healthcare anymore.

      We’ve got to be so far past the point of no return that the status quo can’t continue before most people will be able to do anything.

      Combine that with the press hiding most of this from the people, and people still wanting to hold out hope for…something…and you’re where we are at.

      I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

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        26 days ago

        I totally get your point,

        I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

        but a friendly reminder to everyone in that same position: hope is not a strategy. At least try to come up with a plan for when it get worse. Do not be naive; as long as it can get worse, it likely will be.

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          26 days ago

          No, you’re completely right. Hope is not enough. I’m also planning, but need to have hope that others outside my circle are too.

          It will get worse. In fact, it has to - or else the majority of people will just brush their hands and say “hey we fixed it, nice job” …kinda like Biden 2020.

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        26 days ago

        From the outside it looks like it’s similar to turning a big ship in a way. It’s just taking time for it to turn; meaning enough to get sick of it. It’s definitely wrong now to say nothings being done by people, you’ve only got to look at the videos people are taking of the migration police to see there’s resistance flowing through.

        This situation here is a clear abandonment of media responsibility. Journalists themselves, or their profession, will take the reputational fall for this and it won’t matter if that’s fair to them or not. The right kind of reporting on this would go a long way to driving resistance against it.

        Yeah I hope the midterms are somehow fair and held. It’s the best solution. I hope people turn out for them too if they are. The more that do, the harder it should be to rig or prevent voting at the polling booths.

      • architect@thelemmy.club
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        26 days ago

        We’ve had multiple people make the first move of outward revolution. They were ignored. So, you’re wrong, some people sacrifice in vain for a country that can’t even boycott a Walmart properly.

        What you really can’t fucking afford is sacrificing your children’s future with the excuse that you “can’t afford to stop fascism”. You’re WEAK. Or you just don’t care about it. The country is fat as fuck. There’s all the proof you need that we have the money for this. Eat ramen if you have to. Yes, I’m telling you to sacrifice a bit for the greater good. Yes, I’m telling you that’s the only way to fucking fix this.

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          26 days ago

          You know what’s even more weak? Typing this garbage onto an Internet forum through your phone while sitting on the couch eating a burger and believing that you’re the one making a difference by being an asshole. I hope you’re enjoying sitting around and jacking off to porn all day because you’re sure as fuck not “sacrificing a bit for the greater good” if you have time to type the absolute drivel that I’m responding to. I’m sure you’ll respond with some excuse as to why you’re exempt but if you have the time to respond then YOU’RE weak and YOU’RE not doing enough.

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      26 days ago

      Its not peculiar, its by design. Flood the people with so much “News” all the time that they stop paying attention. You can only keep up with so much before you just stop trying. Even those of us still paying attention have to take breaks or go mad.

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        I can’t do it anymore because the “press” are actually just fascist influencers and they are all lying. I don’t believe a single thing any journalist had to say. I don’t believe a single thing the government has to say. I’ll never respect the rapist president. I’ll never accept the heroin addict running the health department. Countries are ideas and this one is fucking dead.

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      What the fuck is left for us to do. I’m surrounded by low iq inbred hillbillies that eat the shit they are fed right up. Vote? I did. Against this shit. Didint work. The cops will kill you. We don’t really have any options. It’s a disaster. The pedo is on control of everything. There is no checks and balances.

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        26 days ago

        You might be doing all you can but WE as the collective aren’t doing jack shit. I see our people going to Chick-fil-A like there’s no other food available. Buying cheap tshirts from Walmart or Amazon. Thinking walking in circles in scheduled areas is a protest.

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        26 days ago

        Y’all masturbate to the 2A your whole life. And when you’re finally faced with fascism you turn into the cowards the world knew you were the whole time.

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      26 days ago

      It is the presses fault. They are now owned by billionaires and they speak to whatever billionaire say to speak.

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      26 days ago

      well, it’s not like there’s a whole lot of options. We have one party that’s openly corrupt pedophiles. We have a second party that claims to want to bring them to justice, but in practice they oppose only progressives and support only genocide.

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        26 days ago

        So then the only way to vote against them is third party, but that requires admitting to oneself just how badly we’re really losing.

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      26 days ago

      “Being American” is apparently a facade based off something that appeared briefly in the 1860s.

      You’d think it’d be from 1776, but they love to rip on the French who 100% carried them to independence and was still nice guy enough to gift them a statue for it too. So, first half of the 1860s; that’s the first and only time where they stood up for themselves and actually won. The only time they were being American and not just playing make-believe.

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      America doesn’t care because the majority of the population doesn’t know because the press and media either under reports it, or doesn’t report it at all.

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    26 days ago

    The Epstein class found out that scandals don’t stick anymore if you just flood the zone, which is what they did and have done ever since.

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      It does appear to be working for them. I’m not sure it’s so much “flooding the zone” as it is “shitting the bed and not giving a fuck who else might be trying to sleep in it”. The Confederates collectively figured out that none of the laws have any teeth if they control all three branches, so why the hell not? It doesn’t help that they’re all like 80 years old and nothing they do will harm the one person they love more than anything or anyone else: themselves.

      Voting isn’t enough. We need a lot more organization. A union of the people so we can act as one and pretty much get whatever the fuck we want so long as masses agree. It was supposed to be Democracy but that’s been corrupted so something fundamental would need to change. I think if we had more open tech (and we will) we could build the tools we need to better organize. The ruling class has every advantage, except the numbers.

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    There is no bottom that 'Murica can hit

    They’ll somehow find a new low to sink to

    There’s no way they’d be stepping in for some black kid accused of littering

    This is to show their base of rapist losers that they have their backs

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    Totally expected.

    Why would this play out differently? MAGA are paedophile and rape enablers, supporting sexual slavery.

    Duh.

    We’ve known this the whole time. Sorry you’re(traditional media) just catching up now.

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    26 days ago

    And to think Al Franken resigned his senate seat after being photographed hovering his hands near a woman’s boobs. smh

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    No it shouldn’t. You’re still living in the past when morals and ethics, rules and traditions held power over our twice elected rulers. We live in a new age now where everything can be used to profits the ruling class even if it leaves it destroyed.

    Americans voted for people who want to destroy the world and keep the rubble for themselves.

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      It makes me question election integrity and the whole process in general. I don’t know how it happened once, but I managed to wrap my head around it. Twice though? This man gutted the CDC and essentially singlehandedly caused the global pandemic. I am calling shenanigans.

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    26 days ago

    It is a crazy scandal; it’s just overshadowed by the larger crazy scandal that is all of America right now…

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    26 days ago

    The thing is, anyone already against these folks was already against them. If your hate-o-meter is maxxed out, it can’t increase.

    Anyone already supporting these folks either never heard about it through their echo chamber news source of choice or simply doesn’t care.

    That’s kinda the state of (American) politics in 2026.

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      Yay for hyper individualization. At least we don’t have to question our beliefs at work or in other shared spaces, as it’s only polite to talk about such energy consuming topics in small sycophantic bubbles so we can do the group style “llm psychosis” affirming of important personal beliefs that heavily contradict highly confident known sciences. World is increasingly on fire? Must be mercury in retrograde, or them immigrants, and totally not the things the scientists keep talking about.

      As long as we never communicate or compare our beliefs, or how we got there. nobody has to experience the terrible pain of unlearning things that you believed in, which shaped the current you. As long as bubbles are isolated enough, and never try to actually cooperatively compare and sort through which beliefs might not be globally consistent, how how to change our actions accordingly.

      Also check out the info on the recent chimp civil war to see what happens to silly little ape brains when you remove their community bridges and communication between groups, while increasing anxiety and stress around the ‘other’ tribes.

      We can also show elsewhere in nature or social systems where defining other life as exploitable environment is how you create the grand cacophony of suffering that we see in nature, and you think the oh so brilliant humans would be able to recognize that and not do it to themselves. Unfortunately a few wealth addicted assholes have already become so parasitic that they intentionally attack and disable learning, communication, and empathy, because we out here parasite maxxing, and it’s tooootally fine if it makes a better life impossible for virtually everyone.

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      I believe he joked/actually posed for a photo groping a woman while she was asleep actually. You don’t have to lower your standards just because the other side has none.

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        He hover handed a plate carrier. He could have full on grabbed the thing and it still wouldn’t count as groping her chest.

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          … So you think it’s not problematic that he, a person with power and influence, indicated it would be funny to sexually assault a sleeping woman? It’s only wrong if he actually does it? Go ask a few women in your life how they feel about it.

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            Do I think a staged photo indicates sexual assault? No, I’m not a moron. I do however remember that he immediately asked for a congressional investigation and as soon as he did she spoke up saying that wasn’t necessary and she wanted to put it behind her. It was a staged photo for a comedy tour for troops. It wasn’t sexual assault. People on the plane said she consented to the photo and wasn’t asleep. It wasn’t sexual assault. It was a staged photo. And the joke is she was wearing a fucking plate carrier so he wasn’t even fake groping her chest, he was fake grabbing her armor. Do you get equally upset about depictions of sexual assault in media? Do you believe those depictions tacitly condone sexual assault? Are you a fuckin moron?

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            Is the question about it being problematic? Or is the question that it warranted losing one of our best voices on the left?

            Had you considered asking the woman that was sleeping? Why don’t you go ahead and look up what she thought about the whole thing.

            It’s like y’all are addicted to losing, I swear to god. Some sort of self-flaggelation or some shit. I wish you’d leave the rest of us out of it though.

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    Not sure how true it is but the rumor (maybe fact?) Is that Baron Trump got to be friends with them at some point over the past few years. They think they knew what they were doing keeping him close for this exact reason. Pretty sure theres other things they did together but idk enough to comment.