Edit: I know this isn’t a trouble shooting forum, but I’m marking it solved because I’ll just hide vote counts in my app (Voyager) from now on.


So I know there’s a whole thing about not taking votes seriously, but if I’m having a good faith discussion with someone, and I KNOW they’re the only person reading my comment reply in an older thread, and they downvote me, how am I not supposed to take it as a “fuck you” button?

I mean, here I am, honestly talking to you as AN INDIVIDUAL because ain’t nobody else reading this, and I’m writing a few paragraphs about my perspective to share with you personally, and your ONLY reaction is to downvote me because we don’t share the same exact opinonm even though we might be on the same side generally?

Fuck me, bro? No, FUCK YOU!

Is this emotionally immature of me? I mean, I don’t know. Like, if you were having a discussion in public with someone and they just rolled their eyes and walked away, and this KEPT happening, how long before you just stop leaving the house entirely?

To me, it’s incredibly fucking rude.

Edit: I know it’s possible it’s not the person I’m talking to downvoting me, but it most likely is.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    I often read the comments of two people going back and forth, and if one of them is objectively false, I will downvote them. Not as a fuck you, but as a “You aren’t as correct as you think you are. Look into it”

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      Do you reckon that actually works? I just figured I can cause people to pile on by getting a comment’s score to -2 (I am a contemptuous and toxic person in my worst moments)

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    Yeah…

    Downvotes are supposed to be about the discussion.

    If a comment if just flat out wrong and overly confident I’m down voting because it’s bad information.

    If someone is asking actual questions, then I tend to upvote because that contributes to the discussion.

    But lots of people definitely get their feelings hurt if you downvote them, I tend to block those people after a couple of replies. They’re usually just here to argue, they treat social media like debate club for a dopamine hit.

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      A lot of people online seem to actually enjoy arguing and starting fights. It’s very strange

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        2 months ago

        Not really.

        This has the lowest barrier of entry and almost impossible to stop people from making accounts.

        The worst of the worst are always going to show up here, just block them and forget they exist, it’s super easy

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          Actually most people I’ve run into here have been super chill and nice, which is a nice surprise. Like a 1:100 asshole to niceness ratio. Compared to Reddit anyway where it feels like the assholes outnumber everyone else 😂

          There’s this thing some people believe that blocking is letting them win. Nah, fuck 'em. Blocking is protecting your nervous system from needless negativity. Those micro cortisol spikes add up fast.

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    I think downvotes with a comment are a lesser negative feedback than swearing. More like a frown or shaking your head than swearing.

    Blocking or trolling is the swearing equivalent.

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      Can you explain why blocking is considered a negative thing? To me it just means protecting myself from a person that upsets me

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    There is no karma here so it literally doesn’t matter, I would try to not worry about it

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    I sometimes use it to mean “I don’t think you read what I wrote” or “I don’t think that’s relevant” in one-on-one discussions, but it has to be pretty egregious, since I upvote anyone who replies to me by default and simply not voting is my version of the downvote in that situation.

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      I’ve happily traded insults back and forth with people without them downvoting me or me downvoting them. Isn’t that interesting? Just a long a thread of us finding new ways to call each other stupid morons yet neither of us are willing to downvote. I respect it.

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    If I downvote a comment or post, it’s mainly because I don’t think the comment has any value and/or doesn’t add anything to the discussion. If I don’t like the poster specifically because their idea reflects a harmful mindset I want to discourage, then I’ll sometimes go the extra mile to specifically tell them to fuck off, because yeah, fuck them.

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    Downvote does have negativity associated with it. But it’s important to separate:

    1. “This person doesn’t agree with me”
    2. “This person hates me”
    3. “My idea is stupid and bad”
    4. “Everyone here hates me”
    5. “I’m a stupid and bad person”

    For a lot of us, it’s an automatic defensiveness pipeline from start to finish. The hard part is drawing a line between each concept without your emotions bleeding up/down into other categories. If you master this skill, it can help you in other parts of your life you mentioned in the comments.

    Good luck! *。ヾ(´∀`*)ノ

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    I don’t know, if that someone is out of arguments, doesn’t have anything useful to add and the both of you havn’t reached a consensus, it might just be a way of saying “i disagree, but i know i’m not convincing you, so i’m out” it’s a way of explaining that you don’t agree which can be important in some very small comunities.

    Side note : putting “fuck you” in big bold letter at the center of your post feels somewhat incendiary. As though you held all your readers accountable… (I know that’s not what you mean, but it pits peoples against you from the start which may not be desirable

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      I don’t think that’s a good use of the downvote button because it DISCOURAGES conversation, and conversation is what’s important in small communities. Like if you just wrote a few paragraphs to talk to one person, and maybe you even ask for clarification on a point, and the ONLY response is a downvote? That’s very discouraging.

      If you don’t want to continue the conversation, just don’t continue the conversation.

      I’m putting the fuck you in there because I’m having a strong reaction, and that’s what the reaction is, and I’m asking of that’s really a crazy reaction or not. I mean, I think it is a bit crazy, but I totally understand where its coming from in the context of having a conversation with someone.

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        I dunno, i havn’t looked at your comment history, but with some people, say a grandfather/mother saying unacceptable things, you can’t reeducate them, so you just let the conversation die by not responding or by clearing one’s throat …

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        √{-_-}√

        To continue on the side note, i meant that “fuck them” would have been a better choice of words. (If you absolutely need to use the word fuck)

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    Importance of up/ down votes you receive should be proportional to the effort it took for me to give