Why support it? Their specialty is Linux.
Per the article:
But because many anti-cheat apps still aren’t compatible with Linux (hence, SteamOS), installing Windows on Steam hardware is currently the only way that gamers can enjoy titles that require them.
So it looks like Valve is at least giving tools for running Windows on their hardware for those that really really want that kernel level malware, I mean anti-cheat, to play a certain game.
really really want that kernel level malware
gold
Just think of using Windows as being a cuck who is fine with your kernel getting a train run on it, every day, every night, all the time.
You literally don’t even know by how many, who they specifically are.
But also, I’m sure its fine, no need for regular STD testing.
… not that it would even be possible.
I was talking to a couple of people about my positive experience faming on Linux since I switched recently, and one of them seemed really interested since he hates Windows.
The other guy mentioned “But some games still don’t work. Certain multiplayer games have kernel-level anti-cheat that doesn’t work on linux.” and I saw the first guy visibly lose interest even though I would have bet money he was going to actually try linux before. So I asked him “Do you play competitive multiplayer games?” “No, not really.”
The fact that linux can’t run every game is apparently a turn-off for some people, even if they aren’t games they want to play.
The thing is that people don’t want to get that new game that that seems so fun to find out that it doesn’t actually work. Other games not working is seen as a sign of potential future trouble.
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The same people will generally accept that a ps4 game won’t play on an xbox etc. So it is a bit odd.
That’s a bad analogy because 99% of the games that people play on steam machines will be Windows games, not Linux games. It’s an issue when you don’t know if a steam game will work on a steam machines, or any other PC game won’t work on your pc.
This is a genuine concern. Kernel level applications being required is not.
It is when the reason they don’t work on Linux is because it doesn’t support kernel level anti-cheat.
I mean, it’s pretty easy to know. They have an icon directly next to the game that says what it works on.
You have just as much knowledge about if it’ll work as you do based on hardware requirements. Which is to say “none, unless you look at the place where they tell you”.
Honestly, the kind of games that don’t run on Linux, I usually don’t want to play them anyway. Like League of Legends (shudders)
Exactly where I’m at. It’s not like we’re low on options.
Ironically, this is the way to do that. If you want to be more secure you only use Windows for those particular games and nothing else.
easy don’t play those games
If I had to give up everything that doesn’t work on Linux, I wouldn’t bother having a computer. FOSS is commie garbage.
Are you a shitty bot or just a shitty troll? Every webservice you use is based on free/open software, without it you would be getting all the speed an reliability of Windows ME from your doom scrolling.
Are you a dumb dumb or an idiot? Web serving is one of the simplest jobs a computer can have. -Why wouldn’t they choose the cheapest option? Wow… gonna block you because arguing with an idiot is a waste of time.
If I see someone installing windows on a steam machine, I’m losing it.
There were people doing that with their Steam Decks day 1
Unfortunately some games don’t run on Linux, my fav apex legends doesn’t. If I had the disposable income to grab one of these I’d at least be dual booting…
It’s the only way to play any of the most played and most popular games on a Steam machine.
Of the top 10 best selling games of all time, 9 of them run perfectly fine on Linux and the one that doesn’t, requires you installing a rootkit, which only windows is stupid enough to allow.
so I’m not sure what your talking about?
They’re not the most played and most popular now.
People want to play online shooters, and those generally don’t work on Linux. Fortnite, COD, Warzone, battlefield, apex, gta, pubg, etc. None of them work on Linux.
Sounds like Valve is catering to its veterans rather than uh younger generations. Aren’t those games notorious for cheats anyway, despite kernel level anti-cheat?
Yet they’re still the most popular and most played games.
If valve wants steam machines to ever be more than a niche, they need to fix this problem - and it IS a problem.
They sold out man. Less niche please.
If rhey only make 100 consoles and sell out, does that make it not niche?
The steam deck, for all the talk of how amazing and what a massive success it is, has only sold about 5 million units in its entire lifetime. 5 million. The switch 2 sold like 4 times that in its first year.
Of the top 10 games currently on Steam, 9 of them run perfectly fine on Linux, and the tenth is Apex.
And apex used to run fine under proton till they decided that it shouldn’t.
Precisely because the “rootkit” (whatever anti cheat solution it uses) couldn’t actually do its job when running the game through proton iirc
Yeah, and those top 10 numbers pale in comparison to the games I named in terms of player counts. Most of these games aren’t played through Steam.
Fortnite is the only one of those with a higher player count than CS:GO, though admittedly PUBG would slip in around the middle. The rest aren’t particularly popular games, maybe you should have named League of Legends instead.
But then you would just play dota or deadlock
That site is useless and made of hopes and dreams lol. It basically pretends consoles don’t exist.
Fortnite alone has over 30 million daily players. That site has it at like 1.5mil lol
That site also has counter strike go at over 250k more “right now” than steam charts say lol
Steam is far from the only place people play games, especially when the biggest and highest selling games every single year are not even on steam.
gta does actually, if you and people in yout session block punkbuster
btw anyone wants to do a heist with me at 2am (in gta)Most of those games have the majority of their player base on console, not on PC. Obviously people still play them on PC, but, the fact that they’re “the most played” ignores the breakdown of where they are played and how big of an audience will be swayed by their exclusion.
LOL not allowing Linux is probably a much bigger issue over all given that it’s player base is PC dominated and it’s still a huge presence.
I’ve played warzone, battlefield, and apex on Linux in the past. I don’t anymore because I don’t find them fun, but they definitely worked fine. These days I mostly play Overwatch and Marvel Rivals, which are also some very popular online shooters, and they work as well on Linux. Kinda weird to be making claims like that in such absolutes.
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None of them work on Linux, so no, you haven’t or at least you can’t now. No one cares if one of them worked years ago on Linux, that doesn’t make them work now.
LMAO I can promise you, they worked at one point, and I did play them. I know apex doesn’t work in Linux now because the devs purposely decided to break Linux/Proton compatibility, and I believe Warzone is the same way. Battlefield was a buggy mess and not very fun to me when I played it, so I didn’t really keep up with what happened there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was dev incompetency as well. Why blame Linux when it’s the devs of those games that are breaking compatibility, either purposely or out of incompetence?
Battlefield 6 has literally never worked on Linux. Kernel level anti-cheat has been required from day 1. COD too, has had it for years. BO7, BO6, MW3, MW2, etc - you haven’t played them on Linux.
the only way
Look at this guy who never heard of Proton gaming
Oh when did proton let you play GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
Did I miss proton getting kernel level anti-cheat? Do you even know what proton is? The difference between proton and steamOS?
Maybe delete this comment of yours too and try again. Third times the charm maybe? The first time you misread what I said, the second time you’ve misunderstood why these games don’t work on steamOS. Maybe next time you’ll get it.
We’re sorry that youve only had experience with games that run micro transactions and brain rot. You could try better games and don’t just fall in with the 16 year olds playing cod 74. Unless you are 16…
Where did I say I play them?
Good try to gatekeep and try and feel superior though.
It’s insane how much the hardcore Linux community seems to be Linux adoption rates worst enemy. Should we want Linux to get features that will remove the single biggest reason why hundreds of millions of people will never switch to Linux for gaming? No, because we need to pretend we’re superior by only playing unpopular games.
I’m not hardcore Linux, I’m anti privacy invasive software. Privacy is already at war, why are we feeding all our data to AI bullshit?
GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
Ironically, those are all games that I did not want to play when using windows either.
Every new game that came out in 2026 that I actually wanted to play does work on Linux with Proton.
The age of Windows is a PC gaming monopoly is definately coming to an end.
Look you can pretend that you don’t care about the most popular games in the world, but you are the minority. SteamOS will not get big until it supports them.
I will
Kernel level anti cheat is not the solution, it is the problem: https://nooneshappy.com/article/kernel-anti-cheat-is-an-overreach/
I am glad that my computer is free of that shit.
Oh when did proton let you play GTA Online? Call of Duty? Warzone? Battlefield 6? Fortnite? Apex? PUBG?
The funny thing is that this is nearly an exhaustive list of games that don’t work.
It’s definitely not. Even if it was; you’ve probably got a combined 50 million players who will never switch to Linux if it doesn’t support them.
Did I miss proton getting kernel level anti-cheat?
Let me get this straight, you want to install windows on steam machine to install malware on it? Windows users have really weird kinks.
Calling anti-cheat software “malware” shows you’re not arguing in good faith.
It isn’t malware by design, but too much power and corruption and even the idea someone could access it from something like this is bizarre. Why you’re defending it, I don’t know.
Look at flock cameras. The idea to find a missing child or someone in trouble instantly is great, until police start using access to stalk women and their exes.
Monroe County, Florida: Deputy Lamar Roman used an ALPR system to track and pull over a woman he met while working security on a TV set.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin: Former Officer Josue Ayala was criminally charged and resigned after he illegally tracked his ex-girlfriend and her new partner’s vehicles nearly 180 times. Another Milwaukee officer, Detective Chapman, was also criminally charged for using the Flock system to track a woman and placing a GPS device on her vehicle.
Software having kernel-level (Ring 0) access presents significant security and privacy risks, as it bypasses the operating system’s built-in memory isolation. This level of access grants applications unfettered control over the system, meaning any vulnerability can be exploited to compromise credentials, hijack hardware, or cause system-wide crashes.
Posting this link here as well: https://nooneshappy.com/article/kernel-anti-cheat-is-an-overreach/
This hasn’t been true for years
Roblox, Fortnite, gta online, battlefield 6, pubg, apex, cod, warzone - these all work on Linux now?
Very thankfully, none of them do! Are there any good games by non-shit publishers you simp for?
You’re “simping” for Valve by pretending literally the most played games in the world not playing on their OS is a good thing 🤣
“the most played” often means literally by children (not even kidding, when I played Fortnite briefly, there were several instances of 3-5 year old kids on the voice chat lol) who have never played a game with any depth. Congrats, tough crowd lol… Maybe if Fortnite and Call of Duty weren’t trash I’d feel differently, but they are. I have no loyalty to any company, if anything I have loyalty to the idea of open source software. Your worst nightmare, apparently.
More simping to justify steam machines not having the most popular games playable on them.
Roblox works great in Linux. I play with my kids all the time.
Yeah in some hacky-as-shit way where you’re playing the android version. That doesn’t count. It’s like saying you can play cod because you can stream it via web browser.
Your comparison is absurd. Unlike Minecraft, no matter what version of roblox you’re using, they are all using the same servers and play together. Only reason you have to use Android based on Linux, is because Roblox officially blocked Wine-based execution, which by the way, worked great as well, until they blocked it.
COD in the cloud via browsers connects to the same servers as everyone else. So like I said, it’s the same.
I don’t fucking know, nor do I care
Well those are the most popular games, and you said it’s not true that installing windows on a steam machine will be the only way to play them on a steam machine………
Proton? (And games that don’t work with Proton are usually bad and their players wouldn’t buy an Steam Machine)
Proton doesn’t play Fortnite, CoD, Warzone, Battlefield, Apex, GTA Online, PUBG, etc.
If valve want the steam machine to be anything other than niche, they need to figure out a way to get these games working in Linux. For all the “success” of the steam deck, even the abysmal selling Xbox series sells more in a year than the steam deck has sold in its lifetime.
Crazy people are trying to drown out your comments with down votes when you are just stating facts.
The stream machine is unfortunately a failure for the price. It should have been 600ish tops for the hardware. You can get a much better system for similar or slightly more which makes it’s price to perf horrible.
Yes I know it’s because of datacenter and price fixing but it doesn’t make the steam machine a good system compared to others
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Which “most played most popular” games would that be?
You mean Baldur’s Gate 3? Well, that one runs just fine on Linux. Also has a Linux native build.
CS:GO 2? Also a Linux native build.
DOTA 2? Runs perfectly fine.
Terraria? Linux native.
Palworld? Runs great. Even on Steam Deck.
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth? Linux native.
I’m sure you’re getting the idea. The only ones that didn’t work at all or not as good on Linux are PUBG and Marvel Rivals.
Fortnite.
Roblox.
Warzone.
Battlefield 6.
Call of Duty.
Apex Legends.
Those work well on Linux?
Almost all of these games are dogshit. As for the rest, want kernel access because you’re a shitty corporation? Fuck off. I’ll opt for security rather than bend over for a corporation to do what the fuck ever. I find it entertaining you came on Lemmy to fight this fight lol
Everyone here (99% probably) hates fucking windows. For excellent reasons. Cry about it and tout your shit games all you want, windows will still be shit.
Everyone here (99% probably) thinks communism is the best and just hasn’t been done right yet, so I really don’t care lol.
You’re actively arguing against Linux becoming a legitimate gaming OS threat to windows. As a Linux lover and windows hater. Amazing.
so I really don’t care
Pretty simple then, leave, you aren’t welcome here.
Last two sentences are deranged.
🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣
Everyone here (99% probably) thinks communism is the best and just hasn’t been done right yet
Stop hanging out with tankies.
Really? Well let’s analyse that then.
Fortnite; blocked by anti-cheat. Otherwise runs nicely. Fuck epic games. Besides, only children who don’t know any better play Fortnite.
Roblox; runs using the Sober client. Better than on windows, according to most Linux players.
Warzone; There are a couple of games called “Warzone”, but if you’re talking about Call of Duty Warzone, the it’s not even in the top 50 games played… And that’s for Call of Duty as a whole. Warzone specifically doesn’t even have an entry in the SteamDB charts top 100 most played games.
Battlefield 6; Eeeyyy, actually a game that’s within the top 50 played games on Steam. Too bad it’s still out-done by Terraria, Cyberpunk 2077, and the likes of Gramblue Fantasy. Yeah, you know, nobody on Linux is missing this one.
Call of Duty; Which one? As in the whole franchise? Yeah, the franchise as a whole doesn’t even make it in the top 50, like I said before. However, most Call of Duty games are just playable on Linux so… Unless you mean something specific, this one is just wrong.
Apex Legends; used to run on Linux, but then EA did a rug pull. So you’re blaming that ln who? Linux, or EA?
Anyway, let’s do a recap. Out of the 6 games you mentioned only 3 have are actually popular (Fortnite, Roblox, and Apex Legends), the others coming nowhere near top 10, or even top 40, with ONE that is in the low 40s (Battlefield 6).
Discarding the other ones as unpopular trash most people don’t play anyway, that leaves us with 2 out of 3 popular games that don’t run on Linux.
From the ones you mentioned, that is.
In the top 10 currently played games on Steam, only ONE is unplayable on Linux. Apex Legends. And it used to play on Linux just fine.
You clown. Those games aren’t in the top 50 cause no one plays them on steam. Other clients exist. Other platforms exist. Warzone has more player per day than any game on steam. Same with Fortnite.
Roblox doesn’t run better on Linux via sober than on Windows lol. How would any Linux player know?
You guys think steam is the entire world.
You guys think steam is the entire world.
On PC it might as well be, so as a reminder…
Those games aren’t in the top 50 cause no one plays them on steam.
… We’re talking about PC here. Nobody gives a shit if they happen to be on console too (which aren’t windows either).
Anyway, nice gif, but nobody asked you to do a face reveal.
I’m talking about PC too for most of the games. There are lots of people playing them on PC, just not on steam.
Gross
You mean ew
Microsoft has done the same thing for years. They provide software, drivers and workarounds for unsupported scenarios while making it clear they won’t provide full support. Seems fair.
Unless you purchase a
slopbooksurface. Even then, good luck.
Those plucky Windows users love to hack hardware to get their niche software running. Good for them.
Hey, thirty years ago this was true!
Why is this headline so awful to read?
It’s not the OS they planned on working with for the Steam Deck. It’s nice they supplied drivers at all for those who chose to do so.
Other than the broad “Microsoft hate” people is thinking about, there are two reason I can think about; and none about Gaben being a Microsoft’s scorned ex-employer.
- conflict of interest: Microsoft’s EEE. Look it up. If they rule the OS on which majority of Steam Hardware work on, Microsoft rules on a competitors against it’s “Xbox experience”.
- Microsoft doesn’t allow open source drivers to officially run on Windows. Any hardware driver must be done, paid, by close doors at Valve and no extra help as the whole community around mesa and affiliated. There’s a reason why Valve is skipping Nvidia on basically everything.
My rog ally x came with windows. Steamos was a game changer for it
Say more. I need to convince my friend to do this. I just bought a Steam deck after seeing his garbage os (for a handheld at least). Love to hear more about how it’s working for ya? Especially if you have any frame of reference between it and Steam deck performance first hand.
Better battery life, for one. Less background processes. There’s also a big performance difference between a general purpose OS and one specifically designed for a device.
Well. As an example, no man’s sky ran worse in windows. I also hated their armoury application
To me it makes sense. Windows is finicky to begin with. And through the lens of Valve and SteamOS, Windows is basically 3rd party, and many software companies don’t support 3rd party “add-ons”.
Fuck EA
Who the fuck
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All I want from Microsoft nowadays is Halowars 2 on Steam. I’ll gladly pay the $50 again.
it was supported on the first week, what is this trash article
It was never supported, ever, it has drivers but they won’t offer you any support and before making a warranty claim they will ask you to restore steamos and see if you still have issues
yes, it has official drivers, so it has support.
And so far, the first report from someone I know that has one is that it’s overheating / redlining. -Sounds like a Linux issue.
Oh look it’s the guy with Linux derangement syndrome.
Typical LiGNUt that can’t defend Linux on technical merit.
I don’t have to defend anything to you of all people. But I do use both windows and linux. Win on my gaming PC (nvidia is shit and I have one game I play with friends that does not work on linux) and linux on my laptop. And the laptop has been running better and longer with the same performance compared to when it was still on windows.
Why? Do they happen to be playing inside a sauna? An oven, perhaps? Maybe it’s not a good idea to take any electronic device in the middle of a desert during summer.
Maybe because Linux is known for poorer power and fan control. Imagine having issues before dust has even accumulated.
is it known for that? do you mind linking some documented evidence for this claim? this is my first time hearing something like this
The issue is more common in laptops and Valve’s new hardware uses a laptop mobo.
https://www.makeuseof.com/finally-fixed-linux-laptops-constant-fan-noise-it-wasnt-hardware/
https://linuxvox.com/blog/control-fan-speed-linux/
https://www.makeuseof.com/finally-fixed-linux-laptops-constant-fan-noise-it-wasnt-hardware/
https://itsfoss.com/reduce-overheating-laptops-linux/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
Is that so? Funny, the entire Internet must’ve missed that. Come, teach the whole world your infallible knowledge of Linux’s problems.
You’re making assumptions or just playing your propaganda game. You have nothing to add to the tech conversation.
Nah, just clowning on a clown. Not a single thing you’ve said is to be taken seriously.
Microsoft’s boot must be so incredibly tasty for you to come here and talk shit for them.
