• Lexam@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    You’re not paying for the knowledge. You’re paying for the piece of paper that states you have the knowledge.

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      16 days ago

      At it’s best you’re paying (or better, your country is paying) to learn how to learn, with a specific discipline as a workspace. As with so much else it has enshittified due to rampant greed and power’s fear of a well educated populace, still, if you go into it with that goal, some vestige can still be had.

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        15 days ago

        Still reduces the cost drastically to society, the whole exploitative college middle-man charging $150k for a degree is gone because the government says “fuck you, degrees are $40k or you don’t get govt places for your course”, and lo and behold… Suddenly the same courses are $40k.

        Just like how the US healthcare advocates cry that “free healthcare is socialism that overburdens the taxpayer” - and yet in countries with socialised healthcare they pay 1/4 of what the US pays for the same health outcomes and usually even less for literally the exact same medicine from the same companies.

        Collective bargaining.

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          15 days ago

          Yeah, I agree with socializing education, healthcare and a lot of things.

          But again, not because it’s a bargain for society means that we should allow lousy teachers in it.

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    16 days ago

    Holy shit! I pay €6000 per year and I already think that’s massively expensive… it is more expensive that regular universities in NL, because my school is private, e.i not funded by governmen. Funded schools cost like €2000…

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      US higher education is uber expensive because whenever americans put something in between the service being delivered and how it is paid, it is out of sight out of mind. The borrowing doesn’t feel real because repayment is deferred. Universities love money and they figured out that they can jack up the tuition and build lots of buildings and hire lots of useless administrators because it is all borrowed money without any kind of reasonableness applied. You would think the US government would demand due diligence not just from the borrower but also from the institution not to waste that money.

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        15 days ago

        Also the borrowers are generally 18-22 year olds who received little to no education in financial literacy beforehand, AND have been told that college is their only shot at a “real” job. It’s a group that’s preyed upon pretty severely.

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    16 days ago

    Students: I’ve paid for this, it’s my right to get a degree in return, even if I never attend.

    Lecturers: No! That’s not ho-

    University Leadership: Yes valued customer, course content will be simplified to facilitate this. We will also pressure modules to be 100% coursework, so that your AI can do it for you my liege.

    Lecturers: FFS…

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    I did 1 year at some crap local polytechnic and figured out I learn more off the internet and now I am quite senior and self taught

    The main problem for me was that the classes can only move at the speed of the average student, where as I get interested in a topic and cram in as much learning as quick as possible

    Some people are more suited to the school style and that is fine also

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    15 days ago

    Yep. University was also a scam for me. Learn nothing that couldn’t be learned by myself. Hell, many courses I passed thanks to youtube videos, teachers failed to teach me how to pass their own class.

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      15 days ago

      yeah, i’d already worked in my first field for fifteen years before i went to grad school for it (one of the benefits of a nontraditional career path). i learned one or two things, but honestly it was a waste of my time. If they’d put those two things in the same week, i could have tested out of that entire damn degree.

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    Its basically a credential that they refuse to let you just test for to justify the price and the institution around it