This is literally natural selection in action. Do not interfere. They want to do everything on their own, no problem. But no hypocrisy. Make your choice and stand by it come what may.
Nature gives no fucks about MAGAt feelings
Nature gives no fucks
It’s not natural selection if they breed before dying, and I think the conservatives are still having more children earlier then liberals because they think God said condoms and abortion are evil.
If they don’t vaccinate their kids, then evolution is back on the table, and not just for the pathogens.
Conservative types get balance by taking fascism to it’s genocidal end against non-conservatives
It’s not happening fast enough. I think they need help.
Lol, lmao even
Let natural selection do its job.
My mom died in November 2020 due to something like an upper respiratory infection. Antibiotics could have saved her, but she chose vitamins and colloidal silver. She’d been part of this christofascism cult since the 90s
I understand how you feel. I lost an uncle the same way during covid. He was a good man. He didn’t deserve to die.
Good people can be tricked, just like bad people. It’s a goddamn shame.
Someone I loved very much died because he thought the Covid vaccine would kill him. Before he fell down the alt-medicine rabbit hole, he was one of my favorite uncles. He was a good guy.
He had four kids, all still in grade school, and a wife who’s now a single mom. He didn’t deserve to become a casualty of a confidence scam. He deserved to live. It pisses me off when people look at the death toll of a believable lie and gloat about how it’s removing the ‘right’ people.
They fell for a scam. That doesn’t merit the death sentence.
Edit: I didn’t think that publicly showing some vulnerability by talking about a dead loved one was such a god damned controversial take. Humans are a social species. We are hardwired to trust our peers because it is part of how we evolved to survive.
When that evolutionary advantage is exploited by con artists and cult leaders, it is difficult to fight. No one is immune to believing a lie. No matter how smart, sensitive, or cynical, we have the same fundamental weakness; we trust our in-group before we trust an unknown outlier. Consider the last time you found out that a fundamental part of your worldview turned out to be part of a broader deception, and how difficult it was to overcome that in spite of the mountain of obvious evidence.
I asked for people to remember that, and have empathy. Nothing more. The reason? The only way to convince someone to get out of a cult is to give them some empathy, and wait. To quietly demonstrate, through sustained neutral interactions, that a piece of their worldview doesn’t work. That strategy fails when you alienate them. Alienating them validates their conditioning and drives them deeper into the deception and the alternative reality it offers.
Someone you love believes something that isn’t true. And eventually, they’ll run into evidence that denies their view. For my uncle, that opportunity to change his mind came too late. Lies kill people. That is a fact. Have a god damn heart, and be patient. Unraveling your whole world is a terrifying undertaking, and they need a hand when that moment comes, not hatred…
Is everyone who falls for a scam–whether it’s crypto, alternative medicine, or MAGA–a good person? Hell no. Should you make that effort for everyone? Again, no. All I’m asking is that if someone you love falls for a trap, try to pull them out of it before it’s too late.
But it wasn’t believable.
No one should have believed it.
People falling for the “scam” aren’t fooled, they are buying in to an ideology that they want to support.
They fell for a scam. That doesn’t merit the death sentence.
Agree. The sad fact is there have been plenty of mistakes made throughout history that can often serve as a kernel of truth to make a lie just believable enough. Given historical context within the U.S. (for example Tuskegee experiments), and the fact that even in the last decade we’ve uncovered more cases of unethical human experimentation by both the government and private companies (MK Ultra, social media manipulation of users emotions), we really should be asking why more isn’t being done by leaders to: 1. Publicly acknowledge some very big mistakes, 2. Create ongoing consequences for the people who did this unethical bullshit. As in, ongoing financial penalties/compensations for victims and their families/communities, and demanding more transparency from these agencies and businesses… Instead of allowing them to just continue operating as normal, essentially tax free with zero transparency while pretending we should all just say thank you.
Idk is expecting the bare minimum from the people we trust (and PAY) to create and enforce laws and policy really too far fetched?
I know whenever I read some crazy MAHA bullshit coming from DHHS in 2026 implying I should be depending on raw milk for my own health instead of vaccinations, I think about the fact that A. Obviously this is a once trusted source of information I can no longer trust, B. The damage currently being done to public trust isn’t going to disappear overnight if/when fascism leaves office, C. The current damage is compounded on top of a lot of previous damage our government never took the time to actually acknowledge and try to repair. D. I doubt anybody in this administration will face consequences for the damage they’re doing, but there will be ongoing consequences to public health and safety for decades if not generations. And that’s kind of their overarching goal.
Tldr: It’s valid to be angry at people for making poor choices, but they’re still people. I’m more angry at the system that failed them and is continuing to fail all of us by not demanding accountability from the agencies/corporations/individuals who knew what they were doing was wrong, but did it anyway because they believed/trusted that even if they got caught, any consequences/penalities would be insignificant.
A couple I knew in college, basically they’d been together since elementary school, moved to rural Minnesota to live their newfound conservative principles. When COVID hit, they were vocally anti-vaccine and antimask, even crusading to ban masks from their little community.
The whole family got sick, and the husband died on a government-provided respirator. The wife and her grown kids still blame Biden.
The wife and her grown kids still blame Biden.
Well they can’t blame themselves. That’s a sign of weakness!!!
Its sad but inevitable. Gotta suck it up
He wasn’t a good guy, and the world is a better place without him.
Imagine having no empathy, as if that will make the world a better place.
Nazis don’t get empathy. They deserve to be put underground.
No idea what this sentiment has to do with my reply. Not everyone that refuses the covid vaccine or uses alt medicine is a nazi.
True.
But most subscribe to an ideology that is becoming more and more akin to Nazism.
But yeah, there are people of all sorts that are just weird about vaccines and doctors and it may have nothing to do with their political beliefs. People believing that all anti-vaxxers are MAGA Nazis is just another thing MAGA Nazis have ruined for us.
Imagine having no empathy
Eh. Our conservative leaders are telling us empathy is a weakness (literally).
Go fuck yourself. Feel free to talk shit about your own family. Don’t talk shit about mine.
They’ve been falling for the scam so long that it’s nobody’s fault but their own now.
Good. They deserve that.
This is one way to make America healthy again.
Yep. If you cull the weak fast enough, you never have more than a handful of sick people at a time. Mom taught me that!
Finally, some good fucking news
Some takeaways from the study:
One goal of the study was to separate external vs internal causes, that is things like car accidents and violence vs heart attacks and diabetes.
The gap appeared not just in those who identified long-term with either side but with those who flipped from one side to the other. Those who went right to left and left to right had better or worse outcomes respectively. The other factors that correlated with the gap the most were income, insurance, education then religiosity and marriage. Race, ethnicity and gender were the least correlated. Those who identified as moderates at some point correlated the least. Marriage and religiosity tend to correlate with longer lives (religion due to social support).
The negative coefficients in the first years of all-cause deaths show that liberals died at rates higher than or similar to conservatives in the early 2000s, although the coefficients do not statistically differ from zero. However, by 2020–2022, more conservative respondents (as measured in waves 3 and 5) were significantly more likely to die than more liberal ones.
Although ideology became more predictive of health during the 2010s, the relationship between politics and mortality became consistently significant only after 2020…A strong relationship appears: participants who identify as very conservative were about 1.144 percentage points…more likely to die in 2020–2022 than those who were very liberal. Unlike in the biomarker analyses, moderate, conservative and very conservative respondents showed worse health - not only the most conservative.
…even conservatives and liberals living in the same county have different health outcomes. These data cast doubt on entirely policy-driven explanations for differences in health outcomes.
Existing research shows that while confidence in medicine was once non-partisan, Republicans began to show less confidence than Democrats during the pandemic…
While both groups (left and right) were just as likely to have visited their PCP right aligned were less likely to trust or follow their recommendations. Right aligned were more likely to go to the ER but again, less likely to trust or follow their recommendations.
Taken together, these results suggest that right-leaning Americans - as measured by their vote choice, partisanship and to a lesser extent their ideology - are less willing to visit, trust and adhere to the advice of their PCPs. This is true even among people with chronic conditions that require regular contact with the medical system for management and appears across a variety of outcomes unrelated to care for COVID-19.
Thank you 💜
If you’re a racist religious fascist and think an ivermectin enema will cure your polio, I’m ok with this. You do you.
Die faster.
Who has a higher birth rate? Libs or Conservatives?
Conservatives.
Fortunately, concervatism is not a biologically inheritable trait.
Birth rates tend to decrease with education…
Accelerate the rate, pls
Can we make this a law?
Partisans have to follow ideological discipline… if conservative, you must:
not get vaccines
Not have abortions
Not be allowed subsidized food or health care
Follow all tenets of your Christian religion
Etc…We can call it the “Practice what you preach” law
I knew at least 10 Conservative people who are now dead because of their devotion to the prosperity gospel. Problem is, once they were too sick for it to matter, they begged for medical attention, which you and I paid for.
and no masks by MDs when they get surgery.
Lol. There wouldn’t be a single conservative left in existence.
Two words: Vaccine. Denial.
