• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    It’s not intelligence, either. It’s all just LLMs, parrots with a huge and mostly stolen dictionary.

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    People have been trying to ascribe consciousness to machines since the 1800s and the advent of ‘calculation engines.’ Robots and Golems were physical manifestations. Can go even earlier, but those were speculative fiction.

    Scrape the surface of anyone pushing ‘machines are like humans’ and it always ends up being a money-raising grift. Good luck with that.

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    You can talk about company “AI” misadventures without a headline claiming to know things you cannot investigate. A sun appears unconscious but only in how unlike it is to humans. Having an experience is knowable to only to the subject having it.

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        Is that Ed from Ed Edd and Eddy?

        I treat “AI” as if it isn’t conscious btw, I’m arguing you cannot ever know.

        We could create an Android that acts so much like a human we would feel emotionally compelled to not do it harm but remain unaware if it can actually suffer.

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    If anyone here can explain to me what conscioussness is, please go one :) I’m not talking about the definition written in some text books, nay !

    No one here can give me any proof that an ant is or isn’t conscious (in there own way) ! We are unable to understand beeings on another levels of consciousness…

    It’s not a question if something is conscious, but rather what kind of consciousness.

    Whatever, i’m just babling my head out 🥴😴

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Personally, I’m partial to the higher-order theory of consciousness which postulates that consciousness constitutes patterns of thought that arise in response to first-order mental states. So, an external stimulus produces a pattern within the neural network which represents a sensation, and then if a pattern arises in response to that pattern, that is an experience of that sensation. Given this framework we could ask whether LLMs experience higher order patterns in response to external stimulus. We would have a clear question to ask which is whether the system can observe itself.

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      Lets have a lower bound definition:

      With physical capabilities and enough training it is able to competently drive a car.