cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/47972724

i encountered this for the first time today while attempting to read something on archive.today.

i confirmed that decoding the qrcode using a computer and following the URL it contains is insufficient; the error it gave directed me here which is what the linked screenshot is of.

the old type of captcha remains available too, for now:

screenshot of text: Important: Mobile verification for Google Cloud Fraud Defense is an experimental challenge type in Preview. Visual and audio challenges are available as alternatives for users who can't complete mobile verification. To use them, click the Visual or Audio buttons.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    165·
    3 months ago

    1. People without a mobile device are fucked out of being able to pass a captcha

    2. As if this isn’t a way for them to associate multiple sessions on multiple specific devices with one another, this is just another avenue for data collection, period. Hidden under the guise of “more secure.”

    • Chulk@lemmy.mlEnglish
      61·
      3 months ago

      I imagine scammers are already thinking of ways to use this for phishing too

    • Corngood@lemmy.ml
      22·
      3 months ago

      You don’t have to drink a verification can, but you do need to buy a verification phone.

    • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      i have one. but it isn’t android, or ios, or ‘smart’ in any way. it doesn’t even text. it’s just a telephone that fits in my pocket and connects to the cellular networks. it’s all i want. it’s all i use. it’s all i’ve needed ever since i got my first one about 25 years ago.

      • leadore@lemmy.world
        6·
        3 months ago

        Same! Except mine does do SMS text and has the other flip phone stuff like alarms, timer, calendar.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Don’t worry you’re included. Simply visit one of our Accessibility Centers between 8am-9am on odd Wednesdays, with a valid birth certificate, filled-out form from here, and a notarized Charizard.

    • MrKoyun@lemmy.world
      6·
      3 months ago

      It really should be illegal to build systems that require a user’s access to any unrelated technology. You shouldn’t be forced to have a phone to pay a parking fee or to get on the bus. You shouldn’t need an app to charge your car. You shouldn’t need to use proprietary software from one spesific company to pass a captcha on a random site.

  • brvslvrnst@lemmy.ml
    78·
    3 months ago

    Nice captcha. Would be a shame if someone intentionally injected malicious code that had users scan a QR code under the guise of security.

          • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
            3·
            3 months ago

            May have to stream a video of the screen into a scanner app, but shouldn’t be difficult anyway.

            One of the forms of digital ID in use in my country now has a new way to use it, which the government websites use now. You always needed a mobile device for this one anyway (phone holds the private keys and you have to enter the PIN 1 or PIN 2 depending on whether you’re authenticating or authorizing something), but it used to be that you could enter your ID code and get prompted for the PIN (with a verification number to make sure you’re responding to the prompt you think you’re responding to), now it’s either on-device from the default browser to the app, OR on desktop you have to scan a QR code that’s a moving target, it changes a couple of times a second so you couldn’t send a screenshot to someone else to scan. This is meant to prevent scams where someone gets you to just enter your PIN over a phone call.

            I don’t know if the google thing is similar though or if it’s a static QR there.

    • unfinished | 🇵🇸@lemmy.ml
      12·
      3 months ago

      It is a paywall, you just pay with your data. Except Google gets the revenue and not the website so maybe a second paywall will be “necessary”

  • antonim@lemmy.world
    40·
    3 months ago

    1. Hype up AI.

    2. Everyone starts scraping the internet to obtain training data for their AI.

    3. To block the scrapers, countless sites implement stricter bot detection tools.

    4. The owners of the bot detection tools now effectively hold all of the internet by its throat, deciding who can access what and extorting more and more data from you to verify you’re human.

    Fucking genius.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.caEnglish
    36·
    3 months ago

    Any website that chooses to use this service will simply not get my traffic. If enough people feel the same, those websites will lose clicks and eventually tell Google to pound sand.

    Imagine the utter hubris on these fuckers to think that people will get a google device just to access a website.

    Or to think that an average user sitting at home would run to another room to grab their phone so they can verify themselves on the desktop just to visit blackcougar.com

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      3 months ago

      1 year later

      Government website you have to use to pay your water bill: “Confirm you are a human…”

      • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        I either use my banking website or go into city hall clerks office to pay it in person. I’ve never once had to go to the actual government website. It’s an option, but not mandatory.

  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    3 months ago

    No malicious site would ever fake this kind of flow in order to get someone to scan a dangerous QR code. Nope, that would never happen.

    • Scrollone@feddit.it
      5·
      3 months ago

      It’s already happening. They tell you to scan a QR code that links to a website where they ask you to log in with your Google account (but it’s just a phishing page).

      Good job Google!

      • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        241·
        3 months ago

        Android ≠ Linux

        Android is based on a modified version of Linux, and owned by Google. Linux is independent.

        • Hawke@lemmy.world
          412·
          3 months ago

          Android is Linux. Not all Linux systems are Android, but all Android systems are Linux.

          It’s not necessarily helpful to those on desktop Linux, but it is Linux if someone wants to be a purist about which operating systems run on their hardware.

  • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    22·
    3 months ago

    We are making side loading harder because scammers are using “these” tactics to install malware on your devices.

    It’s totally fine when we use the same tactics to install malware on your device.

    • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      malware is bytecode Google didn’t approve of. when google spies on you, that’s just “legitimate interest”