I read people say online that Americans are loud. What does this mean, exactly? Is it literal volume or is it our personality/presentation? Something else?

I may be moving to Australia because of my wife’s job, and I want to better understand this. I want to assimilate and I don’t want to be annoying. I’m personally pretty low key and listen more than speak, but this is my perception of myself.

  • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Another factor, there’s so few of you that escape the country (only 48% of you have a passport) that the only ones folks in EU mostly see are;

    • the wealthy assholish ones 😡
    • the plucky risk taking ones on holiday on a couple pennies and a dream 😁
    • people here on business trips 😐
    • the influencers 🤢
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      This is absolutely true. The American Dream carrot keeps us from spending and learning about others. If we did that, we might have some legit options that help the people. We don’t want that though!

      Thanks for the reply!

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    Volume for sure, but also Americans seem to be largely incapable of experiencing silence. They tend to fill silence as if they love the sound of their own voice.

    Obviously this isn’t all Americans, and my only experience of Americans are when they’re tourists.

    You say you listen more than you speak so you’re probably fine. Even just asking about how to not be annoying shows you have more self awareness than any American I’ve ever met

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      Thank you so much for your reply!

      The constant talking thing is definitely cultural. Americans get nervous during silence in conversations because we think there is something wrong like we’re not interesting or people don’t value us or something. It’s absolutely our own stupid hang up.

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    As a Midwestern American, my girlfriend and I went abroad on a trip that happens to be where cruise ships dock. We did not take a cruise. However, the most annoying people we met on the entire trip were southerners from the US. Just everything about them was the worst. Every stereotype you can imagine was being presented. They were god fearing and cheeto loving, and they made it known. We weren’t even in the US, for fuck’s sake. The cherry on top, for me, was every single American store we passed on the tour bus, one of them had to yell the name of the store. “SAYAM’S CLUHHHB”…“WAYNDEES” Like, can you shut the fuck up? It was, right then, in that exact moment, it hit me like a bolt of lightning, no wonder people say Americans are loud and annoying. Because the vocal yokels absolutely are.

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      Oof. We Americans are such douchebags sometimes. Hello fellow Midwesterner! I’m in the Chicago area myself currently.

      Thanks for your insight and anecdote!

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    So here’s a Canadian answer.

    I have found that, on average, Americans speak at a higher volume than folks from my country. At the same time, they seem more willing to share things that we wouldn’t except in more familiar company. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, but there are times when I would recommend a touch more discretion.

    For the most part I think you’ll be fine in Australia. Just whatever you do, DON’T support Collingwood and DON’T drink Fosters.

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      Ha! Thank you for the comment.

      Fosters? Seriously? When there are craft brews? I’m going to be drink the craft or wines…I just wish weed was legal.

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        Oh, just a note. Don’t look for a “pub” or a “bar”. For some obscure reason, a drinking establishment is called a “hotel”. I don’t know why but that’s the way it is. I spent about 45 minutes wandering around trying to find a place for a bite and a drink. Finally had to flag down a local.

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    As European travelling in Asia at the moment, I notice this a lot.

    • Americans tend to speak louder, especially in groups
    • You seem to speak with deeper voices. But that could also be just my imagination.
    • You seem to speak more since you do a lot of small-talk. That’s something not so common in other countries.
    • And since many people speak English, maybe we just notice it more since we can understand it. When there are let’s say loud Chinese around, it’s more like a background noise.

    There are loud people from all countries, and Americans are at least pretty nice usually. But in my opinion it’s true, you are also louder than most.

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      Thank you for this answer!

      It really has me thinking about why we speak louder. It’s got to be something to do about our culture here. Proud? Bravado? We have more space and we’re used to having to project our voices? The want to be heard over others (competition)? I really have no clue, but it’s an interesting subject.

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    I flew back to America from Tokyo today and as a frequent traveler to Japan I can tell you it’s all of the above. As a very introverted, easily overstimulated person I love going to Japan because it’s my ‘quiet time’. Coming home I’m usually overwhelmed by the sheer noise of being in America.

    1. People simply speak louder than they need to here. In Japan you speak in a hushed voice unless it’s necessary to raise it. Also people aren’t afraid to lean in a little closer to hear what is being said to them. In America people stand 2 meters away from each other and have to speak loud enough for the whole room to hear
    2. People speak more and don’t value quiet time. In Japan you don’t speak on trains. Your inane conversation can wait. Its more pleasant for everyone if you just stay quiet. Then an American tourist boards and everyone in the car gets to hear all about their opinions on some anime whether they want to or not
    3. People tent to interject / interrupt more here

    Hopefully this didn’t come across too much as venting. I can’t wait to go back.

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      Thank you for your answer! It’s definitely not coming across as venting. You have some great thoughts and the idea about standing further away when speaking really hits home to me as something I’ve been thinking might be part of the reason for our loudness as I’ve been reading other answers.

      Thanks for the Tokyo insight as well. Our family has booked a trip to Japan this Fall, so we’ve been trying to brush up on culture and language as best we can so we aren’t total assholes over there. 😂

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    Billy Mays is an outlier and should not have been counted. He raises the average volume of the entire country

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    I went to Geneva, Switzerland when I was in college. There was a public square with about 1000 Swiss eating at different tables, all leaning forward like they were telling secrets. We 6 American college students were louder than all the 1000 Swiss in the square, by volume.

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      We 6 American college students were louder than all the 1000 Swiss in the square, by volume.

      You noticed this and just kept going?

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          I wasn’t even being judgmental. Just curious. I basically have a personality disorder because I have a loud voice and am kinda extroverted. But I think if I were to live in like L.A. I’d be considered introverted. Maybe average for like rural Minnesota.

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      Wow. Any reason why you kept going? If I noticed that then I would probably mimic others nearby.

      Thanks for your reply!

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        We were just laughing and talking among ourselves as per usual. This was before cellphones.

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    As an Australian, I took up baseball because the crowd is far more pleasant than the Aussie Rules football mob.

    You’ll be fine. Half of Australia doesn’t have an “inside” voice.

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    It’s very hard to explain. I’m not American but I’ve migrated to Australia. What you will find is a culture that is probably much more polite and considerate of others than American culture, and also, the culture here doesn’t appreciate individuality much. I’m painting this with broad generalizations so of course this will differ from person to person, but generally, this is my assessment.

    Individuality isn’t overtly shunned, people will tell you to be you, but subconsciously you will find the real attitude is that people who stand out are also set apart, semi ostracized. It takes loads of charisma to stand out in a positive light here. This is the land of the tall poppy syndrome. Difficult to put in words, I would bet money you won’t notice upon your arrival, you’d be like “nah man that mothra dude on lemmy was talking shit, people here are super friendly” and then after a year or two you’ll see the pattern. It’s very subtle but very much there.

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      That makes total sense to me. Look at the culture, it’s about doing good for all (environmentally friendly, better healthcare for all, etc). I think you’re probably spot on.

      Thank you for your answer. I’ll have to pay close attention to that if we end up moving there. Also, as a Godzilla fan I love your name!

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      lol. I appreciate this comment. Honestly, I’ve been to Australia, Italy, Germany, and Mexico. Every country has these people. I just find it interesting that Americans are called out for it so much, but I also kind of get it too. 😂

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    WHAT?

    Just kidding.

    There’s a range of actual volume, my boss I cannot hear half the time because he is quiet but a couple of coworkers have voices that really carry, it’s not exactly volume or not just volume, it’s throw.

    Talkative we are, overall. Not everyone of course, but there is a lot of talking.

    And pushy and curious we are, overall, too. I think that can read as loud too.

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    It’s the literal volume. In Germany you mostly recognize Americans because they are mostly louder than other people, for example in public places or transport.

    Thats the image but it does absolutely not apply to everyone.