cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/64572229

Listen to Malcolm X if you haven’t. In history, reformation follows revolutionary acts. While there are those who preach peace, there are also those who use violence to achieve peace. Those in power obviously don’t like to shed light on those that may take up violent acts.

I doubt if the french revolution was occuring today that CNN, CBS, The Washington Post, etc, would say anything. And if they did it would be to demonize the acts.

In the wake of the alleged shooting by Luigi Mangione, insurance providers started approving claims, saving lives. I don’t see major networks pointing out that fact.

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    “It’s called “The American Dream” because you’ll have to be asleep to believe it!”

    • George Carlin, I think.
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    In the wake of the alleged shooting by Luigi Mangione, insurance providers started approving claims, saving lives. I don’t see major networks pointing out that fact.

    Major networks are owned by rich fucks like the Ceo that Luigi killed

    Obviously they don’t want everyone knowing that if you start killing them you start getting what you want

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    The American Dream was built on genocide. If there are people, kill them. If there are no people, claim it is underdeveloped. It makes the land cheap. Then build your dream!

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      I’m not American, pretty far from liking American politics not just current but most of it. Or even Americans frankly, I mean you guys don’t have basic human necessities like healthcare, education, workers rights, you routinely do bad things to other people, and even then you act like you invented algebra.

      Yet I don’t think your modern interpretation is correct in historical context. At the time you talk about(and most times in history) killing other people was often necessary for people to progress or even survive. Times were bad - people didn’t have healthcare, education, workers rights. So limiting the American Dream to common interactions does not explain why it ever became a meme.

      The thing about the American Dream is the idea that you can change your destiny(be born, suffer, die). Like you were born poor(aka 99% people then and mostly so now) but you can go some other place kill people do some pretty normal stuff you could do at home though you wouldn’t have such problems if you actually did that stuff at home to some certain people and suddenly you can have life, home, kids - all those things you can’t afford today.

      So the American Dream is a good meme and a positive thing you just need to use it to interact with very specific people now for it to work properly.

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        It has always relied on being a selfish cunt, and claiming something as your own without thought that it might belong to everyone

        Whatever nobility the idea has quickly falls apart under the most basic scrutiny

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        Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t know it was good.

        This year I have paid $1000 for over $1,000,000 of medical care.

        Admittedly I doubt it actually costs that much but even if it’s a fraction I feel grateful what I’m paying is not too much.

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          $1,000,000 of medical care.

          That is something I can’t conceive of and I’m not alone.

          Big numbers are sometimes big for no reason and elimantiong middlemen makes it go down.

          Edit: I’m sorry you went through whatever it was regardless.

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            If you knew the details it might not be as crazy as it sounds… probably not a million but many thousands I’m sure.

            Yeah it was pretty rough. Most difficult experience of my life. Even family members said for them it was also their most difficult experience.

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              If you knew the details it might not be as crazy as it sounds… probably not a million but many thousands I’m sure.

              I’m sure it was awful and I don’t mean to demimish that in any way. But again, fundamentally no matter the details it’s not something I can truly fathom. No one of any status in my country would accrue millions in medical debt.

              I’m Canadian, our healthcare is flawed in many ways and only looks good when compared to the states’. But even ours, with medications, eyes, dentistry, etc. being excluded from free healthcare, that’s ludicrous.

              Again, not to invalidate what you’ve been through, but to reiterate: it didn’t all have to be that way.

              Sorry, this is a sensitive subject and don’t mean to get intro it this much. I just want you and others to know this isn’t natural or even common

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                Well presumably everyone in Canada has good insurance.

                But regardless of whether you pay out of pocket or not someone is still paying the cost when people need expensive medical care. Hopefully yours is more efficient than ours but time, expertise, hospital beds, supplies… these things are not cheap.

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            That would be nice but is there anywhere on earth that has totally free healthcare? I thought even the gov run ones have some payments involved.

            Payments might make sense for some discretionary things, as long as they’re affordable. There are a small number of people who really will just make shit up for attention and even a small cost can help mitigate that. But it has to be affordable for everyone which it obviously isn’t under capitalism.

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              In developed countries part of your taxes goes to healthcare, and then you get healthcare when needed. Sometimes you pay extra if you want something outside of the regular coverage, but it’s always something extra. Like, you get an operation, but if you want a personal room for recovery you pay extra for it, otherwise they give you a bed in a room for, like, 4. That sort of things.

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              My appendix burst, and I almost died

              It didn’t cost me a cent

              I had a fuckwit colleague do something dumb, and I almost lost a fingertip

              It didn’t cost me a cent

              Etc. etc.

              Fuck 'Murica

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              I had major surgery and a payment method didn’t even cross my mind. I was seriously injured, we have free healthcare (with caveats), it was simply prudent to take care of it right away than let it fester and further tax the system.

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              They didn’t pay less than $1000 for healthcare. They paid $1000 in addition to their insurance. In developed countries you pay for your healthcare and then you don’t pay for it again when you actually use it.

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                In developed civilized countries, you pay according to your ability to pay, because it’s not a business: it’s a common service, we don’t want anyone to go without.

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                You are correct. I should have included the normal payments in the total but my spouse pays that so I don’t know what it is.

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        Well I have it through my spouse so nothing lol.

        But yeah I agree having it tied to employment is problematic. However I did have state insurance when I was unemployed so it’s not like I wouldn’t have insurance, it just would probably be worse than what I have now.

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            It’s my spouse’s insurance from their employer so I’m not certain the cost they pay but the out of pocket max is $1000 annually.

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                I guess good is relative but it’s good for the USA. If my shit had gone down when I had previous insurance I’d probably be bankrupt. The insurance I have now is functioning as intended to protect me from medical risk and provide care at an affordable price.

                But I’m not saying it’s better than care plans in other countries because I can’t speak to those.