Anything but trains.

  • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    I thought they ate the onion but somehow this appears to be an actual serious study. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable a bus going 140mph would be. At that point the engineering required to keep the road in appropriate shape is likely more expensive than just using rails…

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    1 month ago

    Trying to turn I5 into the autobahn with a 140 mph bus lane would result in so much chaos and destruction that honestly I’m all for it.

    There is 0 chance that the average American drivers liscense having brain could comprehend this concept.

    Most people can’t even keep an actually reasonable following distance, or understand the concept of a passing lane.

    This is a literally comically stupid idea, its a B movie plot element from an 80s scifi movie.

    Fuck it -> Do it for the lols.

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    The reason for busses is simple and seems to be ignored by literally everyone.

    The private property between SF and LA keeps increasing in price so the costs for the project are in the billions before anything is even built. The signing of the land is in the billions. Now build a rail in Trump’s economy and it becomes nearly impossible to succeed at anything rail.

    Busses builds an audience that can be used to later justify rail to get buses off the road. Americans hate big trucks on the road but there they are anyway. It’s a slow burn turn to morph the car brain into train brain.

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      The private property between SF and LA keeps increasing in price so the costs for the project are in the billions before anything is even built.

      Damn, if only eminent domain existed

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        Even with eminent domain though you still have to pay market value. Edit: Not that they shouldn’t do it. It would still be worth it in the long run

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          Governments can have a funny way of determining market value based on whether they like you or not.

          Just point to a row of buildings and declare “slum clearance”. Suddenly, you can get them for a steal.

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    Wow, 140MPH! That’s … still 84MPH slower than the fastest trains in Europe, and 127MPH slower than the fastest train in Asia (Shanghai maglev).

    These stupid fantasies are still a pale shadow of what the rest of the world has already managed to achieve. Just finish building the fucking train already!

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        The farmland between LA and SF isn’t minority neighborhoods. But my comment was more an off the cuff dismissal of this ass-backward bus idea than an actual policy opinion. Here’s a real policy opinion: Stop making excuses and run the fuckin trains.

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      We already did that then tore it all out and let the railroads keep the property and money they schemed, scammed and straight up stole.

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      1 month ago

      These “high speed buses” don’t even exist in theory. So it would just be plain old regular buses. You can have these now.

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    This bus proposal is basically a ‘back to the drawing board’ plan. How can you get people to travel between SF and LA faster than driving, and maybe cheaper than flying, especially if jet-fuel prices stay high.

    It’s going to follow the existing roadways. What the original high-speed rail project could have done, instead of jogging far inland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_of_California_High-Speed_Rail

    Given diesel fuel costs, they’ll probably end up with EV, perhaps with overhead cabling. And to avoid expensive ‘self-driving’ buses, maybe they’ll put down ‘guide lines.’ To be able to go faster than cars, they’ll have their own lane, or use center divider areas. And to avoid pollution and wear and tear, instead of rubber tires, they’ll go with metal wheels. But to prevent damage to the roads, maybe they’ll have to swap the guide lines with hard metal, protective lines…

    Meanwhile, elsewhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China