In addition to making people stupid, I wonder what affect will LLMs like Claude will have on programmers? How will new programmers learn if companies start using Claude?
The vast amount of people don’t understand how their brain works…
What we think of “us” isn’t our brains, it’s just our consciousness. And that’s just a middle manager that’s getting all types of shit thrown at it.
Our consciousness can’t tell the difference between the prefrontal lobe handling something, or a laptop with a chatbot open.
It just takes the input and processes it.
When we throw stuff to an AI, the part of our brain that normally handles it, just starts doing other stuff.
If you don’t have the AI, your prefontal lobe doesn’t want to take the old stuff back, it’s already got its plate full with the new stuff it picked up.
Your consciousness knows the chatbot can puke out an answer, so when your prefrontal love won’t/can’t do it, you just got hyper focused on getting access to the chatbot.
It’s “making people stupider” but the real problem is it’s abusing how every mammals brain has worked for millions of years. It’s not something people can resist,bits the brain as a whole working as intended. We just didn’t evolve for something that at any moment could become prohibitively expensive.
Think of how Uber was cheap till people needed it.
If people get hooked on cheap AI, they’re not gonna be able to survive without it and will pay anything. I think this is why its pushed on coders so hard, they want everyone to use it so everyone becomes dependent on it. Instead of paying for 4-8 years for a degree, people will have to pay monthly for an AI just to earn a living
That’s the end goal of the techbros. No one being able to work unless they pay for AI.
It’s pushed on coders because it gives every developer a team of never sleeping junior devs for a fraction of the price.
And if the competition is doing it, you won’t compete unless you do it too. Until the price matches that team of junior coders.
a team of never sleeping junior devs
As a senior dev, that sounds like my worst nightmare tbh
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Uber is still quite cheap i find but certainly not as cheap as it used to be had
@grok this true?
I get that there are no hard-and-fast rules for the use of ‘er’ when it comes to comparative adjectives, but I feel more stupid every time I hear “stupider”.
It’s the sylablle count…
1 syllable: er
3 syllables: more
2 syllables: usually “er” but even when typing someone’s spoken accent tends to effect their preference.
Since you prefer “more stupid” I’m curious if you feel like your pronunciation is “longer” than normal? Like you stretch the word out longer like a Southern drawl?
No right or wrong answer, just curious.
Are you saying “more” is syllabler than -er?
It has an extra mouth shape, but unless you pronounce it “mowar” it’s still one syllable.
Are you saying “more” is syllabler than -er?
It has an extra mouth shape, but unless you pronounce it “mowar” it’s still one syllable
That’s a wild way to interpret something…
If that was your assumption here, you’re gonna be a lot better off just asking people what they meant and keeping your guesses to yourself. People are just gonna assume you won’t understand anyways with guesses like that.
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I have no doubt “AI” companies are sitting on studies proving their shit causes irreversible brain damage, much like tobacco cartels used to sit on studies proving their shit caused cancer.
By the time the bubble pops and their shit gets properly regulated it’ll have crippled a whole generation (on top of all the other damage like destroying the Internet, causing unfathomable damage to science, culture, and society in general, and infecting any information produced after this shit became commonly used).
I have very little hope for our civilization being able to survive this self inflicted disaster (and given how we’ve squandered natural resources and caused a runaway greenhouse effect that’ll make our world mostly uninhabitable for humans without massive industrial effort that will be impossible after our fall, no new civilization will be rising after this dark age). But hey, at least some sociopath CEOs will have made a lot of money out of it. Who cares if they murdered the future for their short term profit.
I wonder… are Google and Bing search indexes being intentionally left to moulder specifically to drive people to Gemini and ChatGPT?
I wonder what affect will LLMs like Claude will have on programmers?
I’m a developer and I just grunt and headbutt the enter key to give Claude permission to do the next thing I don’t understand
Your “enter” button
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They’re lobotomising tools. Vibe coding is just shoving one end of an ice pick up your nose, setting the other on a keyboard, and replacing its handle with a mains powered personal massager.
Tech in general is making all of us more stupider, or at the very least, suckers and rubes.
By design.
Absolutely shocking.
I wish that I didn’t have to use them, but for basic Linux troubleshooting, it’s easier to ask the chatbot and have it explain itself and cross-reference than to use a search engine or forum. The internet has become so shitty for self-teaching. You either end up on YouTube watching videos that aren’t relevant, your search engine pumps you to garbage on top of ads, or you find a forum from 5 years ago with someone asking the same question, but it was closed because it’s the same question that was asked 20 other times, and all the solutions don’t actually work.
I know that I am robbing myself of this collection of secondary skills, and that part of it is a lack of patience, but the pool of knowledge that is the internet has been poisoned. The only way I even get to useful guides anymore is if Claude links me to them. It’s becoming impossible to use the internet otherwise. Even spell checkers have gotten shittier.
Even in Word, it will try to autocorrect or just tell you something is wrong without auto-correcting, as if I want to search for the word that it obviously marked in red. Even if it offers a correction, it will be one word, and it will be the wrong word. My phone too, constantly changing my words or somehow hitting the wrong letter when it didn’t before.
I just don’t even know anymore. The mental energy to “do it myself” is exhausting. Then, of course, whatever I do or learn to do will be undone with the next update that gets pushed out and changes all my settings. My fucking phone settings have completely changed between when I got it and today. Every app has tied its permissions for functionality to its permission to send notifications, and those notifications are just ads. If I want to order DoorDash and know when it arrives, I have to agree to have DoorDash bug the shit out of me to order food when I don’t want to.
I’m just tired, and if using an AI helps me figure out how to replace my bootloader when I accidentally deleted it, then so be it. I can’t fight every battle.
it was closed because it’s the same question that was asked 20 other times, and all the solutions don’t actually work.
This has absolutely been my experience as well, yeah. I rarely go straight to LLMs first but sometimes I’m not comfortable with simply posting my problem on Reddit and waiting (or posting on Lemmy and waiting forever lol), since it isn’t always that simple or convenient to first anonymize data before getting public help, nor do people even always reply, leaving me back to square one with time wasted. I am by far the techiest person in my company (and I barely know anything relative to full-time programmers), so there sure isn’t anyone at work who I could ask for help, haha.
I don’t go to LLMs often, and they sure messed up a lot even just 2 years ago, but they’ve come an impressively long way from the unintelligible-text and six-fingers era (despite still occasionally messing up nowadays) and have legitimately optimized my formulae dramatically in both function and legibility, such as by showing me
LET()that I didn’t even know existed. While I’ve been meaning to take an online course on spreadsheets and just haven’t gotten around to it yet, I try to learn from how the model did XYZ right away but it’s nice to have a personal, on-demand tutor, as long as you’re always aware of the fact that what it says could be garbage, despite it speaking so confidently. I think for actual, entire vibe-coded products, it’s much harder to learn what the heck it’s doing versus just simple one-liners. Anyway, on-device and FOSS LLMs make for better compromises, I think, though their quality is noticeably poorer.The reason I try to avoid “AI” use is not The Dumbening™ but because of the ecological impact, yet I contend that spending hours and hours trying to traditionally solve a problem in frustration is also harmful in its own ways… It’s a decent tool of last resort and the Stupids are merely the ones treating it as a line of first defense against everything.
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hur dur…
