In the Lord of the Rings fandom there’s a persistent debate whether balrogs, or Durin’s Bane specifically, have wings. The text in Fellowship is ambiguous whether what it is describing are literal wings or something else wing-like.
Star Trek (Voyager): Was it murder to split Tuvix back into Tuvok and Neelix?
I’ve got a long and complex possible solution to offer regarding this ethical clusterfuck, and I’m willing to elaborate if someone’s interested to hear it.
Edit (possible solution): Voyager’s database should include the Enterprise D’s information regarding Riker’s duplication incident. While Voyager’s crew already found a way to separate Tuvix, they could’ve searched for a possibility to repeat that process and then split back the copy Tuvix a few milliseconds into the original Tuvok and Neelix before said copy became self-aware.
That’s what makes it a good story though - an ethical dilemma with no clear “right” answer.
Im curious, please share
Two characters got merged into one completely new character the had traits of both, but was their own person. Decision was made to forcibly (against the new character’s wishes) undo the accident and restore the two people. In so doing the new character no longer existed.
Yes ive seen Voyager lol, I meant their solution
Thanks for trying tho
Lol should have remembered this was Lemmy.
The longest and most complex solutions are usually right (yes, please share).
The trench from my bed to my toilet is three meters but I can whizz without getting up anymore
They should have just kept replicating Tuvix with the transporter and using him as fuel.
The Riker split depended on a plant on that one particular planet. Maybe it cannot be replicated.
Fully embracing that technology would have loads of chaotic outcomes…maybe they forbade it or something? Ripe for abuse…the ability to make infinite free clones or people…
Boimler would like a word
So I was under the assumption that every time they beamed someone up or down they murdered them and an exact copy appeared elsewhere.
They used a transporter, so yes.
Every use of a transporter where someone is disassembled is murder, or possibly suicide.
Alternatively we’re just data (as muteable as a save file) so neither of them died at any point as Tuvix was a valid continuation of both their continuities, similary when Tuvix was split again Tuvok and Nelix also constituted valid continuations of Tuvix’s continuity.
Yes and she was right to do it. Except maybe she should have made a backup so she could have done it again
Are tabs worth two spaces or four?
That’s the beauty of tabs, it can be whatever you want.
But the correct answer is 4
I’m a spaces guy, but agree on the 4. A coder told me decades ago that 4 is better than 2 because if your code starts wrapping due to too many indents you should be refactoring it into functions anyway.
Spaces, in 2026? Why?
In part, because it forces 2-space tab users to confront the indentation issue above
Also there are no drawbacks… I still hit the tab key to indent (and shift tab to dedent). My editor does the rest.
You can do the same thing with a linter rule, without forcing everyone to see the code in your preferred way.
Tabs are one space *quickly runs away*
I use a single space to indent when writing Python in a SecureCRT command window that gets sent to an interactive Python shell on the server.
:set tabwidth=4I might have the solution: Elastic Tabs. They di what tabs were always meant to do from the start, whilst also fixing the shortcomings that spaces are currently used to fill.

When you display a TSV file using elastic tabs, they finally display nicely.
However many I feel like that day. Sometimes depends on the language and use case - if it tends to be deeply indented, I’d gravitate towards 2.
If using actual tabs, you can change how they appear just for yourself without touching the actual code; the same can’t be said about spaces.
I was trying to stay out of the fray but this one I feel I have to respond to:
tabs, you can change how they appear just for yourself without touching the actual code; the same can’t be said about spaces.
This is why I use spaces. A space is a space everywhere, a tab depends too strongly on the editor. I’ve had too many times where I had to edit on a different machine and it transmogrified my tabs into a different non-character entity in a way that didn’t reveal itself until later.
I can kind of see your point if you’re speaking from a devops/sysadmin’s point of view (i.e. something that would require you to use default editors on the go on systems that you don’t necessarily have control over).
Other than that, a tab’s principal purpose is indentation. One tab is one level of indentation regardless of how it appears. If a tab gets transformed into something else, it sounds like a text encoding problem and indentation would then be just one of (and possibly the smallest of) several possible issues.
I’m speaking from a web dev’s point of view - I’m assuming that I’ll always have my own configured editor on hand and I’ll be able to tell it that one tab is N spaces, sometimes even differently for different file types in the same project. Worst that could happen is that I don’t have a specific configuration and the editor just falls back to the default until I set otherwise. Since I’m working in a team, using spaces for a source controlled project would mean that everyone has to use the same. Having tabs means that everyone can configure it for themselves (assuming editor configs don’t go in the repo).
That depends; are oranges worth 9 feathers or 12?
Three.
Four, but I’m a spaces fella.
4 for code 2 for yaml
I collect coins, and there’s always debates about what a coin is.
For those who don’t know, a coin is usually defined as an object with legal tender status somewhere; as opposed to a token that has a face value but is issued by a non-state actor; and a medal, which is anything that looks like a coin but doesn’t have any face value.
Now, aside from the expected debate over what is and isn’t a state, there’s also the issue of NIFC (not intended for circulation) coins. Many mints sell coins that are legal tender, but are never put into circulation, some people (often those that could be characterised as “old school”) take the position that as these aren’t intended to be used as legal tender, they aren’t really coins.
It doesn’t help that there are tiny island nations like Niue and Samoa that will basically let companies make anything legal tender if they pay them. This leads to the rather silly situation where a batarang, and a literal statue of hogwarts, are technically “coins”. (I’ve been told this is done as a import tariff dodge as the USA doesn’t charge import taxes on coins)
Imagine being a Samoan shopkeeper and some tourist showing up and trying to pay with a friggin statue of Hogwarts.
It’s 5ozt of pure silver, so I wouldn’t say no…
id accept it as payment, record a video of myself melting it down and making it into a small blahaj figurine, and make the video public to spite and annoy jk rowling and the harry potter fanbase
What the fuck is wrong with Samoa? Like, I can speculate but my speculations are unkind. I don’t want to go there.
Programming and Linux. Oh boy, what to pick…
Terminal text editors: VIM vs Emacs is the main debate there. (There are others but these are ones people argue the most about)
Linux Distros: Arch, Debian, Mint, CachyOS, …
Init Systems: Systemd vs OpenRC. Honestly, probably the most toxic debate on this list.
Programming Languages: Python, Shell, but the heated one is C vs Rust
A non-exhaustive list of ones I couldn’t think of a category for:
- Tiling vs Floating Window Managers
- Chromium vs Gecko-based browsers
- Bash vs Zsh vs Fish
I love computers and Linux, but man, the amount of toxic in-fighting and gatekeeping is a real turnoff. Just use what you want. At the end of the day, we are all nerds doing what we love.
I am team…
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Nano
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Arch
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Systemd, I don’t see what the fuss is about that TBH
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I don’t wanna even touch that one lol
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I like the carousel kind of things like Karousel or Niri
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Gecko (Librewolf, Floorp etc.)
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Zsh
But yeah I agree, everyone should just do what they want. Having lots of options is one of my favourite things about Linux.
heretic! the only dogmatically correct setup is
- helix
- fedora
- systemd
- rust
- whatever fits your workflow
- gecko
- nushell
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And heaven forbid you actually prefer Windows
actually prefer Windows
I don’t understand. I recognize the words, but in that order, they make no sense.
Microsoft’s helping our case by blasting their own foot all the time, fortunately.
Nobody prefers Windows. Some people used to prefer the software suites exclusive to Windows.
Nobodymost people on Lemmy don’t prefers Windows. FTFYLinux users need to stop assuming everyone is wrong for needing things that Linux can’t do at all or doesn’t do well. I need accessibility. Linux doesn’t do it well. Over a decade and a half of trying to make it work has proven that. Some people need Adobe or MS Office (even though many may not like it), and Linux doesn’t do that at all. They’re not wrong, their needs differ from yours.
And it doesn’t matter whose “fault” it is. Apple fanboys do this, too. If an OS doesn’t offer something you need, that’s where the conversation ends. They don’t care what internal politics at the vendor or lack of community interest by Linux devs or whatever lead to the thing they need not working. All they care about is that it doesn’t work.
And no, they’re not going to take night classes to get a comp-sci degree so they can code the drivers that their peripheral needs.
“What’s that, you need a claw hammer but I gave you a ball peen hammer? Pfffft, just become a blacksmith and forge your own hammerhead, it’s not THAT hard.” --Every Linux user
I prefer Windows. Every experience I’ve had with Linux has been a nightmare.
neovim, opensuse tumbleweed, idk, idk, floating, gecko, bash
my experience is limited tho, and im not strongly opinionated
i like the vi/vim/neovim editor control scheme, not tried much else, nano seems ok too from my occasional use of it
i use opensuse tumbleweed because its rolling release but still pretty stable and installation is easy but allows a lot of customizing, many other distros are good for many other things too, fedora popos and mint are great easy desktops, debian and nixos are great for servers, arch gentoo void nixos and artix are great desktops for nerds, etc. the bad ones are ubuntu (canonical is weird and corporate and makes bad decisions), manjaro (the devs are incompetent), and omarchy (it preinstalls nonfree software (including nordvpn (ew)), ai, and more nonfree software (including chatgpt (even more ai ew) and twitter))(as you might be able to tell i really hate it, its just an installer for some moron’s desktop setup, thats what nixos is for you fucking twat, and its crappily opinionated with crappy opinions)
ive only used systemd distros (opensuse, ubuntu, fedora, debian, raspbian) so idk whether systemd alternatives are better, i just know that systemd is pretty bad in many ways
and im not that much of a programmer, but pretty much all languages are good and useful (except that javascript is useful but not good)
i like floating wms (i use kde plasma) because tiling is a bit annoying (sometimes i want a window to be a particular shape) and because tiling is usually in wms that are not des, ive tried sway and hyprland and the mostly keyboard based control was nice but it not being a de that provides all of that useful stuff was annoying
gecko is better because its more libre, the corporation behind it is dedicated to libre rather than being one of the world’s biggest and evilest megacorps, and it incorporates more pro privacy design. i use librewolf. gecko is poorly separated from firefox tho so im quite hopeful for servo engine now that ladybird is vibe coded slop being rewritten in rust by the cult
i like bash because its the typical well known linux shell that many online resources are about
I can’t believe people still argue over whether or not Balrogs have wings when the text unambiguously says they do. You can have wings and also have a shadow that looks like wings.
His enemy halted again, facing him, and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings. ...suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall...Like two vast wings but then he explicitly says its wings were spread, clearly stating it has wings. To be the most generous you could try to say the wings are made of shadows, but based on the text they’re clearly still wings.
Yes, Balrogs have wings.
I don’t have an opinion on the matter. I’m much more into the worldbuilding and languages than the books themselves, though I’ve of course read and enjoyed them.
Yes you do. Your opinion is the right one, that you don’t like getting attacked by panthers.

Balrogs have wings because how can you expect to go caving without fried chicken? And what’s the best part of the fried chicken? The skin. And what has the most chicken skin? The wings. Not fake boneless chicken nublet basket shit restaurant wings, real wings. So smart ol Balrog goes around trading drumsticks for wings. Of course he’s got wings. Quid. Pro. Quo.
In the Sonic fandom, there’s a debate over which is the “authentic” Sonic: the Western version or the Japanese one. It’s not about design, but rather personality, values, and attitude.
The thing is, the differences between the two are very subtle. Unless you’ve been in the fandom for years and have seen enough material on the subject, they’ll seem exactly the same to you.
My opinion is that “It doesn’t matter”~♪. At this point, there are countless versions of Sonic (the classic, the modern, Sonic SatAm, Sonic X, Archie Sonic, IDW Sonic, Fleetway Sonic, Sonic Boom, Sonic Prime, Movie Sonic…), all with their differences, but in general they share the, let’s say, “essence”* of the hedgehog, and that’s what matters.
*(If you’re not from Latin America, you won’t know how funny it is that I used that particular word)
frantically coloring in Sonic’s arms at a GameStop, armed with pepper spray
Woodworking: I have mentioned this a couple times in my lectures on this platform. Festool has a tool called the Domino. It’s the shape of a biscuit joiner but it’s got a router bit that it wags like a dog’s tail. It cuts a deep, narrow, short mortise that pre-made loose biscuits fit into.
This tool is protected under patent so only Festool makes them. They sell two models, a small and a large. The small cost a thousand petrodollars.
It’s very easy to use, it makes strong joints quickly, it’s impossible to afford.
You’ll find there’s a crowd of purists who will spend that much on a chisel and won’t hear anything about it because it’s not “traditional joinery.” Floating tenons are thousands of years old, but okay. You’ve got beginners or hobbyists who can put together the basic tools and are upset when Youtubers use Dominos in projects. Most domino joints can be replaced with dowel joints, but okay. And you get the actual cabinet makers who go “I manufacture cabinets, this lets me do it faster, and time is money.” Which…fair enough.
If you don’t own a plunge router, you don’t care.
Community - The slogan was ‘Six seasons and a movie.’
We are still waiting for our goddamned movie!
Make your own dammit. Fan edit it together
Synthesizers: digital vs analog.
Common opinion holds that analog (specifically oscillators, but also filters and even VCAs [voltage controlled amplifiers]) are warmer and more natural sounding while digital are cold and harsh.
The thing is, digital emulation of analog hardware has become virtually indistinguishable from the real thing, but there is a certain segment that refuses to believe their $5000 Minimoog can be so easily replicated by software (realistically I doubt Bob Moog could tell the difference anymore).
Of course some also choose to argue which is better, which is just ridiculous because they both have their uses depending on what kinds of music you’re composing or just what sounds you’re trying to make.
Yeah by the time you add effects, throw that synth into a full mix with other instruments, THEIR effects, and all the compression and EQing in a finished track, the only thing that matters is whether that single instrument adds what it needs to add to the whole.
Objectively, digital oscillators are better - they don’t drift unless you want them to, they stay in tune, and they can always be run through analogue filters to add imperfections (sorry, “warmth”).
But it still boils down to my first point: it’s a single part of a multi-part song. As long as it gets the job done, who cares whether it’s fluctuating voltage or zeroes & ones. It’ll be analogue on its way into the listener’s ear canal either way.
Absolutely. So much nuance is lost in a mix. Not that it’s a bad thing, it’s just dumb to think a $3000 synthesizer is going to sound better than a $10 plugin when you’ve got it buried amongst guitar, bass, drums, and vocals.
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Sims 4 is a good game (though not as good as 2 or 3) but it’s a bad experience due to shitty monetization practices like microtransactions.
And personally I was very disappointed that “we’re getting rid of sliders” just meant getting rid of them visually, not the actual slider mechanics.
The original is my fav simply for the vibes. The music is great, the graphics are charming and the gameplay is simple and fun. Great expansion pack content too. I still have all the original CD copies from when I was a kid.
I preferred Sims2, but 1 had a lot of charm. It was charming.
I’ve only played Sims 3 and 4. 4 has way better mods, while 3 has better gameplay.
I was a massive SIMS2 player. When Sims3 came out and my dude walked away from the wall with the phone and sat on the couch I flipped my shit. Finally can increase social workout comfort going to hell. Haha
Lots of debates about the internal arrangement of the original series Enterprise…
- Bridge: forward facing or offset?
- Engineering: primary or secondary hull?
- Shuttlebay: short or extending under the nacelle pylons?
- How big is this ship, anyway??
I watched a video on this recently which was able to demonstrate that Engineering was shown in different locations in TOS. So the answer is, “Don’t worry about it.”

In fact, between this and the fact that the Engineering room set changed significantly between seasons 1 and 2, I’ve grown pretty partial to the idea that there are at least two and likely more rooms of a similar layout throughout the ship. Everybody wins.
In the world of Game Collecting, the guy with potentially the largest single collection on the planet is getting rid of his collection.
The ideal plan was for it to all go to a singular museum, which was in the works and then unfortunately fell through. Problem is the next two backups also fell through. So plan D involves the collection being split up and some of it going to the Embrace Group, and some into private collections, which was seemingly both never the plan. People who donated items, thinking that they would eventually be publicly displayed, are rightfully upset. And then the rest of his fans, such as myself, are somewhat bewildered that this is how it will end after decades of amassing a collection, and then years of saying it’ll all be going to a museum.
That’s really sad, especially given the industry’s penchant for destroying its own legacy.

Why don’t people crowd fund and start a new museum?
Doctor Who has a bunch of them!
One of the big recent ones was the Timeless Child plotline. For people unfamiliar with the show, the basic premise is that the main character, the Doctor, is an alien who’s species can regenerate themselves when they’re about to die which saves them but they become a physically different person. This was invented back in the 60s so they could change out the lead actor, William Hartnell, when he got too old to continue in the role and it’s become a core part of the show. We’re now on about the 15-16th Doctor, although that number is a bit contentious too for reasons I won’t go into here because that’s a whole other thing.
A few years back there was a plotline where it was revealed that the Doctor isn’t just a regular alien, they’re something called the Timeless Child that just appeared in our universe from somewhere unknown, and was the one that gave their whole species the ability to regenerate themselves. This was widely hated, as it not only changed the Doctor from a sort of wandering hobo into a Super Special Chosen One, but it also directly showed that William Hartnell wasn’t the first Doctor, there had been probably dozens of other ones before him that had just never been mentioned until now.
The internal debates that I’ve seen usually aren’t people debating whether this was a good idea or not, they’re mostly about the best way to retcon it away and never speak of it again lol.
Uggggh… I only watched the 13th doctor episodes a couple of years ago to catch up to David Tennant’s return and I totally forgot about all that… I don’t mind weird ‘missing’ incarnations like the war doctor and even the one at the lighthouse had she either fit in or was ambiguous as to what ‘number’ they are but yeah, the timeless child stuff was awful and weird and just made the doctor feel so hollow… Instead of being this flawed character trying to do good they suddenly are important in the universe because of their nature and not their deeds… It cheapens the doctor so much… Can we not just pretend that 13 never happened? I’m still yet to watch the 15th doctor series because of how awful the Chibnell era was…
I very much enjoyed the 5 hour video by Jay Exci on it because it really showed how poor it really was. I was never that keen on some of the Moffat era when he got too Moffat-y for his own good but I would have had that in a heartbeat.
It’s such a shame because I really like Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor, but yeah her whole era was so badly written. She’s doing Big Finish now though so hopefully she’ll get some good stuff to work with there.
The 15th Doctor era is… odd. No spoilers but RTD is back as lead writer but he makes some… decisions lol. Including putting one of the worst episodes the show has ever had right at the start of 15’s run. You’ll probably know it when it happens! But then inbetween the oddness there are some genuinely really good single episodes too IMO.
I’m not a Dr Who fan but I’m from the little I’ve seen and gotten through the fandom is that The Doctor was always more of the Super Special Chosen One than hobo
You left out one important piece of the Timeless Child plotline: Time Lords were supposed to have a limited number of regenerations, and the writers kept having to find excuses for the Doctor to go past the limit, but the Timeless Child plotline made it so the Time Lords have the limit because they got the regeneration ability from the Doctor, while the Doctor has the ability naturally and has no limit on regenerations. Makes it much easier to keep changing actors, which was probably the point of the whole thing.
Timeless child was just a rehash of the Cartmel Masterplan. No one fanwanks like a whovian
In a flight sim board, I once witnessed a heated debate over the HE111. The argument was over whether the first HE111s to drop torpedoes were field modified or had torpedo hardware mounted at the factory.
This thing went on for pages, and there was plenty of primary source documentation posted. And it was heated, personal, and vicious.
This is the kind of shit that eventually leads to leaked classified documents on Warthunder forums.
Improv: should you lead with character relationships, game or platform? There are many vehement proponents of each, each claiming that their process leads to better improv.
Character relationships are self explanatory, “game” is kinda like the core conceit of the sketch - i.e. in “who’s on first” the “game” is “names that sound like pronouns”, another common one is a pile on of identical characters (i.e. the SNL Jim Carrey family reunion where all his family have his mannerisms.
And “platform” is where you build the world and the scenario (i.e. we’re Goombas that live in fear of mario; we’re merpeople with a foot fetish… or more seriously - the family that runs this farm, the employees that work at this hotel…)
I mean it always starts with the game, right? That’s what we do. Then get platform or characters as gets. I didn’t realize it was possible not to start with game, as it lays the framework to create the scene.
There are a lot of other ways in - hence the disagreement.
In my city in the Southern USA, “game” is rarely if ever taught (except in the context of short form) and formats like the Harold are almost non-existant.
I have friends in the scene who tell me they’re happier without any game in their work at all.
There is a large chunk of narrative or similarly structured (montages, Spokanes, la rondes…) work
Yeah almost all we do is short form (I know, I know) so we do game after game. Sometimes we just start with one word and raw dog it, but that’s rare in a show.
personally I think there’s actually such a big difference in “game” between short and long form they should be called different things.
Once I got the hang of game when i was on a house Harold team, things really took off for my long form ability.





















