Why should the OS itself, which is just supposed to facilitate the running of programs, use so much memory?
I was kind of humbled to see how much less ressources Debian was using.
It needed one GB of memory after install in full memory.Meanwhile Canonical
https://www.techpowerup.com/347967/ubuntu-26-04-lts-raises-recommended-memory-requirement-to-6-gb?cp=2Right?! I have a debian NAS running openmediavault, it has music streaming and samba network shares. it only has 256MB RAM and doesn’t even use all that.
In the middle of a RAM pricing crisis? Fuck off microslop.
A RAM pricing crisis they created through OPENAI, no less.
32gb is the new standard they need to run poorly optimized start menus and telemetry in the background while they think no one is paying attention
In reality, if software used the native UI toolkits instead of Electron, even 12 GB could be reliably used for gaming, HEAVY gaming.
“Bully tells nerd to come to school with more lunch money next time” ass bullshit.
With 32 GB system RAM, Microsoft believes that the games can have more “breathing room”.
There’s no such thing as “breathing room”, dammit. Once you set up 32 GB as standard, shitty / assumptive developers are going to say “well, we assooooome users have 32 GB. It would be a waste to design the game to use less than that lol lmao”. Specially devs doing the same as Microslop, and using AI shitty code to pump out code faster than humans can desloppify.
“640KB of memory ought to be enough for anybody.”
- Bill Gates
I can run a gba emulator, an llm, a full os and a browser all at the same time with 4gb, so I think Windows is the compromise
I run a full os, a browser, and vintage story. It uses nearly 18 gigs of ram. I think linux is the problem.
Ram is ram, you have either be stupid or making a bad faith argument to say what is or isn’t a good amount of it.
The only correct amount of ram is the amount that covers your work load. Full stop. Yes windows could use less ideally. But we can’t keep pretending that 8 gigs of ram is remotely fucking acceptable for ever.
Just because you don’t use programs that consume larger amounts of ram doesn’t mean none of us do.
That’s such a funny thing to say when like 90% of personal computers are basically used for browser and office, which both should be able to run perfectly fine on 8gb.
Windows has been actively going down a ram thirsty route for some time now.
You can easily have a fast and convinent system with 8gb of ram running most Linux distros with a browser of you choice and LibreOffice.
My laptop right now is running CacheyOS with KDE with 8 tabs on librewolf (one of which is a playing 1080p video) libreoffice writer and a system monitor, all of this on a 4k screen and everything is snappy. My ram usage? 6.5gb and no swap.
Windows 11 struggles to run smoothly on 8gb, let alone running multiple programs and videos playing.
So what the hell are you talking about?
Ofc if your OS needs just 6-7GB only for running itself and nothing else…
Wow. Not too transparent are they? RAM prices go up worldwide. Microsoft - “We need you to buy more RAM to successfully run are mostly unnecessary, bloated crap”.
I still remember that the first time in my life I gave any thought to RAM is when my childhood PC was upgraded from 1GB to 3GB.
I don’t do radically different things on the computer nowadays than I did back then, yet that would nowadays be unusable.
Meanwhile i have a linux server that’s currently running individual LXC containers for hosting
Snipe-it, zammad, paperlessNGX, wiki.js, rustdesk server, firefly III, flare, among a few other things. And it’s barely using 6GB total. Less than windows sitting at desktop these days. It’s pathetic how bad windows has become.
Linux says “Hold my beer…” https://youtu.be/LJEo6Kb6Rhg
Been using CachyOS the past while on my gaming laptop, it’s stupid how much better it is with zero extra steps other than basic install. Can’t recommend it enough.
Been that way for awhile but I imagine the ram shortage is going to lower it to 8.
Are we back in 2021?
