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Hey Sony, I am never gonna buy a PlayStation, but I will buy anything almost anything from Kojima Productions at full price for PC.
Regardless this is a dumb decision. I guarantee they were raking in free cash from the ports. If this is a move to try to move more hardware, they’re sorely mistaken if they think I’m just gonna go buy a PS5 or even the upcoming PS6 over this
It wasn’t free cash, since the ports cost money to make … but they are throwing money away, especially with all the money down the hole on Ghost of Yōtei.
It’s like having a machine where you put a $5 bill in and a $50 bill comes out, but these chucklefucks are going “I dunno, five whole dollars? Seems expensive.”
“This is just devaluing $50 bills!”
And the sales were sometimes a tiny chunk of what Playstation sold.
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There’s no way in hell those games don’t run on PC, you think every dev/artist/designer/etc has their own Playstation devkit for testing things? There was work needed, probably related to PSN and some other optional things that can be turned off for dev builds, but I guarantee you the games were running on PC before anyone even considered porting them.
They run on pc sure. On the spesific spects computers they use. They need things like support for different resolution. Work arounds for the controller only features. If you want to make things like mouse control feel good, it needs lot of fiddling. Optimizing for million different hardware possibilities, error handling, launching, settings, key bindings and propably million other things i cant think right now.
Its not just flicking a switch.
I’m not saying it’s just flipping a switch, but it’s also not the monster that people make it out to be. Porting a game to a console is usually a lot harder, but the vast majority of things should work on a PC already as they were probably developed and tested on a PC.
I don’t think their intent is to have you go buy a PS5, I think their bigger intent is preventing it on Xbox hardware.
I think Xbox’s claims that all PC games will be available on the new system is a big reason for them to not allow it on PC, they have been a firm “We don’t want this on Xbox”, and they can’t uphold that with Project Helix’s claims that it runs PC games.
I imagine that while that maybe was involved in their reasoning, that they are more worried about steam deck. Xbox is circling the drain. Steam deck is gaining steam. Ahem.
Their model is based on subscription to use online features. That becomes a harder sell when the hardware is also much more expensive. So, they will want to make gamers miss out by not having a PlayStation, similar to past console battles. However, in the past people picked a side and stuck with it. A gen or two ago, many gamers had more than one console or a console and a gaming able PC. I think that’s going to shrink with the cost rises.
They want people to choose PlayStation as their first choice. I don’t think people will, so it might mean they lose on both, so it’s a gamble. However, they can port to PC at any time, so I expect that’s what they will do.
They just aren’t making money from them like they used to. You can’t expect to port a game to PC 2 years after it releases, spend $0 on advertising and then say “mhmm, this pc thing isn’t working out, no one’s buying our games”. Check the Steam charts for their last few ports, they’re resembling a flat line. If they dropped the game on PC day 1 they would’ve made more money on PC sales, which is a terrible precedent for them, as it means that the age of the console has come to an end. Luckily, some of Sony’s biggest partners already realized that:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2023-09-25/capcom-targets-smartphone-gamers
Well, I definitely wasn’t going to buy a PlayStation 5 when it was $500, but now that they’ve stopped putting out versions of their games on PC that run better than PlayStation versions, and now that the console costs $650, I’m definitely enticed to buy one!
Maybe if they lowered prices instead of raised them…
My PS5 is just a Warframe box for the living room when I don’t feel like using my Deck, and I plan to essentially replace it with a Steam Machine down the road (sure I could just set up my own linux box there but the form factor is a huge motivator).
I think I use the thing for other games like once every few years. Death Stranding 2 is the only one I bought that comes to mind, Yotei was a gift. This isn’t going to encourage me to buy more of their games because this console is going in the closet soon enough.
i like your style, freak
Yeah, I won’t be buying a playstation, but I’ll definitely buy the next naughty dog game if I have a device that can run it.
Sony was always the “exclusives” company. For the PS5 I believe they outsold the Xbox equivalent all most 2:1 but I think that is because more and more people have gaming PCs. I still can’t believe PS5 sold something like 90 million! I think Sony is fighting a losing battle now steam is pushing for agnostic hardware and I only see Sony continuing this business model with exclusives that will never come to PC. Right now they are doing the math to determine what it would take to get the average person to buy a new PlayStation vs how much they made from Sony pc sales. It’s going to get harder every year with less developers going totally exclusive and the component cost increased. I’m guessing they will use the same model for ps6. Sell the consoles based on excluses then wait a few years once the console sales dip and move them over to PC. Steam machine is a real wildcard here.
Sony was always the “exclusives” company Cough cough nintendo cough cough
Makes a lot of sense they’d do this in preparation for the PS6. Hopefully it’s just temporary.
Honestly I don’t know if it was a financially sensible move releasing exclusives to PC, but it was great for gamers while it lasted. Maybe they could go linux only in future to really take a stab at Microsoft. Ha.
Sony doesn’t even release that many games anymore. Games take half a decade plus to make and I’ve lost interest in Sony’s superhero movies with interactive elements
When you can’t compete, you restrict.
I haven’t played my PS5 in many months, and have no motivation to get a PS6 for $1000 or whatever they end up on. It’s sad to see Sony games go, because I have and absolutely would continue to get them on PC, but there’s literally no chance of me buying another one of their consoles.
Its a bad time to cut diversification when people will not be buying the new things like they used to because they cant afford them. I wish Sony the worst of luck.
The only PlayStation Studios games I’ve been interested in are the Spider-Man games.
I have coworkers discussing exclusives in tones where they’re clearly trying to make me jealous, and I’m just fine with my games
Also that argument isn’t really as great as it was in the PS3 or PS2 era where a lot of games either didn’t come out on PC, had weird versions, or ran like shit for no reason. Plus I can play a game released in 1996 one minute and then switch to a game released in 2026 since PC is basically universally backwards compatible.
Horizon Zero Dawn and Days Gone were quite good
Sucks, I was excited for the eventual release of Wolverine for PC in a few years, but now i will literally never play it, and that is okay.
Never gonna get bloodbourne on pc now.
Love to see them come to steam (all platforms) instead
My console money is for the Steam Frame so nothing of value was lost. Most of their games can be watched through a let’s play series anyway.
Instead of “little money” they’re going for no money. Bold move.
I think the next naughty dog game will be on playstation. I’ll be sorry to miss it, but not enough to buy the console.
Personally I don’t really care for PlayStation games
Please consider trying Death Stranding.
Both Death Stranding games are way better then they have any business being and I love em
nah, I’ll stick to indie devs on PC and not pander to a failing company that makes aaaaaa slop
Sony never learned that most PC gamers are not interested in consoles. It’s going to hurt Sony in the long run by cutting the player base that is able to purchase their games.
