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AI-washing layoffs. They will replace jack shit with AI but that’s a better story than “we have to reduce costs because we don’t have cheap ways to refinance our $1B debt”.
Credit isn’t cheap and Iran is not going to make it cheaper, investments in software have tanked, so the only story that can still be told with an almost straight face is that they still have big growth opportunities thanks to the magic of AI.
Of all the shitty AI products flooding the market right now, Atlassian’s Rovo has got to be the most useless I’ve had the misfortune of using.
They should be hiring more workers to fix their AI slop, not replacing them with even more of it.
Trying to get Rovo to do things in JIRA is like trying to train a chimp to cram shit back into an elephant’s ass.
Made me chuckle)
Rovo made it easier for me to find things that search was quite useless at finding. I found no other benefits to Rovo.
I literally had no idea it was supposed to do anything else.
Atlassian now circling the drain.
I hope they will go down the drain. No more Jira! 🙏
There is a Jira ticket (ID-240) for Atlassian requesting the ability to merge Atlassian accounts that is over 10 years old. I’m one of the 1,450 watchers. This news does not bode well for this ticket ever getting implemented.
well the good part is you don’t need to merge those accounts anymore
Hodgepodge.
AI will vibecode that into production in a week. And to make it all easier…it’ll have merged your account with 10 competitors too so you know what they’re working on!
The biggest surprise in the article is that Atlassian is not profitable. How? They pretty much have a monopoly in the Jira-like space (look , I can’t even think of a generic name) and they charge a hefty sum for their products. How tf do they lose money?
The article lists an insane revenue of $1.6B, yet the losses are only on the order of $42M in the last 3 months. Against that much revenue, it looks to me like they are managing the company at a slight loss on purpose. They probably could close that gap if they wanted to, but have some favorable tax implications or something by running that “slight” loss.
(And who knows, maybe this is part of the attempt to close that gap and show a profit before the founders cash out and it all gets sold to a Shittier company)
Agile project management. And ticketing. And document management.
There are others. We are working on moving to Asana and other products.
Redmine. Open source and free.
I greatly preferred Redmine back in the day. It was easy to extend it yourself too despite my dislike of Ruby.
Asana is… not a whole lot better.
Agreed.
They will rehire for less. The AI hype is just a wage suppression scheme.
About 6 months ago they spent more than half a billion acquiring The Browser Company whose only currently-being-developed product is a pretty wrapper for ChatGPT
That explains the explosion of unwanted AI features in Jira these days. No, I don’t need you to re-write my fucking ticket comment!
My god, that’s worse than Wonder buying shitty software from Sweetgreen for $186 million.
So you telling me Jira and all its related bullshit will get even worse? I hadn’t thought it possible.
You’re absolutely right!
Would you like me to yassify this ticket for you?
Put some emojis in my SQL, fam
There’s a chance that leaning out the team makes things better. Bloat kills dev teams.
But… ticketing systems are a bit like fashion. We could see some new shiny system come around that does more or less the same thing, but becomes fashionable for one reason or another and eats Atlassian’s lunch.
That’s just a failure of learning and imagination.
I’m just being facetious, I of course know there is no bottom to how shitty things can be.
I’m amazed they had 1600 employees to begin with. I guess it takes a lot of resources to make something suck as hard as JIRA
3 coders and 1597 managers.
Who else is going to put the sidebar as top bar, and then switch them back a couple years later?
You could save a LOT of money by replacing the execs with AI.
It better yet, replace them with nothing at all.
It’s not because of their garbage AI. It’s because their garbage AI is leading to people dropping them like a bad habit for open source and fucking Microsoft alternatives, so they need to reduce operating costs and CAPEX to demonstrate profit growth
Edit/note: I probably didn’t make my comment very clear. I’m aware it’s 1600 being laid off. More that I didn’t realise that Atlassian had 16k people in total. 16,000 people making their products progressively worse.
Even if their company only had 1600 ppl, I’d still say they were wasteful.
About 16k workers? How!?
What a waste of human effort, time and resources. All to make a few bad products, worse.
I’m not surprised. Jira is a monster.
As with any software, look how complex it is as a user, the hidden part is 10x worse.1600
16k total headcount. Well, not that much longer
It’s not 16k, it’s 800×2
Their products are utter garbage to begin with, this can only hasten their well-deserved demise.
“Uh, we need you to clear out your desk ASAP.”
“Sure, just submit a JIRA ticket and I’ll get right on it.”AI will have a scrum with itself.
JIRA and Bitbucket are so bad that even Microsoft Azure DevOps (that is a reskin of the decade old Visual Studio Online, which itself is a reskin on the two decade old Microsoft TFS) is somehow better than it. And everyone loves to hate on Microsoft products.
Are there any actually good enterprise grade Task tracker + Code repo combo that we should be suggesting the execs migrate to? Maybe the GitHub Enterprise product?
My org just rolled our own project management tool that matches our workflow now.
We have https://codeberg.org/ as an alternative to Bitbucket, and you can have free public static pages like Netlify or Github pages.
Codeberg also offers private repos.
“AI is too dumb to take our jobs” as if that matters. that’s not even the point, the point of Generative AI is to mine data and devalue human labour. according to the like 120 people who run this world too many people are making too much money so now we have a dogshit “technology” made to cut your wages whenever it’s convenient.
Atlassian is getting thrashed in the stockmarket and they’re using AI as a get out of jail free card to conduct massive layoffs.
Its too bad that in the end they are just making forgettable tools that jira aside already have extensive competition, that actually feel built for enterprise vs the garbage atlassian is making.
If it wasn’t for the army of agile cultists who claim that work is impossible without Jira they’d probably already be a much smaller company.
