• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I know the nuance will be hard for some. So I will start by saying that I am very against the actions of our government, and have been since a pretty young.

    But, the vast majority of our troops are in the military because it was the best or maybe only option to make a living. And that is the way the government design the economy. They make sure people have no or few other choices.

    Now compare what the military is doing to distract from the epstien files to what the billionaire class is doing. Then look at who you work for. Odds are your job in some way supports the very people who made epstien possible. So we are all complicit. Yet we all have little choice but to work. So instead of pointing your anger at someone who just like you is complicit. Point it at the people actually responsible.

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      24 hours ago

      Drug dealers and mobsters are often in it because that’s their viable option for social mobility. Therefore I will give soldiers the same respect owed to drug dealers and mobsters. All accept the reality of maybe having murder innocents for some rich jackasses too.

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        Hm, the percent of drug dealers and mobsters that don’t have an active combat like role is very very low. But the military has people like doctors and nurses among other very much non combat roles. So it isn’t really a fair comparison. And some people join the military to avoid becoming a drug dealer or mobster. It’s a step up, mostly because it is legal. And for some, they do one tour and then become productive members of society. That happens far less with drug dealers and mobsters. So at least give them the respect for choosing not to become a drug dealer or mobster.

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          It is completely fair to to your weazel words that amount to: MY LIFE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE WORLD AND I WILL EVEN KILL INNOCENTS WITHOUT HESITATION, NOT TO PRESERVE IT BUT JUST TO IMPROVE IT SOMEWHAT. That is what they all signed up for, many soldiers proudly.

          Also mobs have a high amount of support personnel too and their master’s goals necessitate far less of slaughter of innocent civilians.

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            Wow, your hands sure were busy shoving words in my mouth. Too bad you didn’t try to make any logical points. Guess you just don’t have any. And no, mobs don’t have anywhere near the percent of support personal that the military has.

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      US troops are disproportionately middle class. Full article is on scidb if you wanna read the whole thing. But here is the important part:

      We show that recent recruits tend to have higher than average socioeconomic background: they dispro- portionally come from the middle of the family income, family wealth, and cognitive skill distributions, with both tails under-represented

      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01402390.2019.1692660?src=recsys&journalCode=fjss20

      Also they are not doing this to distract from Epstein. The rich got away with that, we have not taken out any of them in retaliation. We’re not even protecting kids from troops at Ft Brag. We don’t care enough to stop them, they can do whatever they want until we hit our breaking point. Just shitty to know that pedos running concentration camps for kids is not our breaking point