To me, it’s like GMOs.
I trust the science behind GMOs. They work, and we can do amazing things with that technology.
I don’t trust the profit seeking corporations that are selling the stuff to me. Doesn’t matter what the technology is, Monsanto is gonna do Monstanto shit.
Makes it even more frustrating when you hear the anti-GMO people talk about why they’re against it. Always completely irrational.
Honestly same.
I always got excited about early AI use because it was actually innovative.
Like using AI to get better HDR photos, using AI for object recognition and Augmented Reality.
I was sure I’d always be an early adopter for it all.
Then within a day of ChatGPTs release, I saw the same social patterns as NFTs forming. I was like “this stupid chat bot fad will die out quickly, it’s all slop frontends for the same chat bot”.
I even made a point to differentiate LLMs from AI, because AI used to label something innovative.
And now I’m here vehemently avoiding LLMs. Cringing whenever I hear AI tacked on to a product name. Getting suspicious whenever I hear the word.
The Dune books had the “Butlerian jihad” where humanity banned all thinking machines. As a kid I was like “who would ever ban cool shit like that?” Now I’m all “where the fuck is this Butler dude?”
Nah, it’s not intelligent.
Everything we have today wouldn’t be considered AI in science fiction.
Yeah this is where I’m at. Actual movie level AI would be neat, but what we have right now is closer to a McDonald’s toy pretending to be AI than the real deal.
I’d be overjoyed if we had decently functional AI that could be trusted to do the kind of jobs humans don’t want to do, but instead we have hyped up autocomplete that’s too stupid to reliably trust to run anything (see the shitshow of openclaw when they do).
There are places where machine learning has and will continue to push real progress but this whole “AI is on the road to AGI and then we’ll never work again” bullshit is so destructive.
Absolutely. Today’s “AI” is as close to real AI as the shitty “hoverboard” we got a few years back is to the one from BttF. It’s marketing bullshit. But that’s not what bothers me.
What bothers me is that if we ever do develop machine persons, I have every reason to believe they will be treated as disposable property, abused, and misused, and all before they reach the public. If we’re destroyed by a machine uprising, I have no doubt we will have earned it many times over.
See: Battlestar Galactica
Also see: Quarians vs Geth from Mass Effect
Or in my definition. But hey what do IT experts know, right?
Yeah, intelligence is a continuum. Animals have varying degrees of intelligence (esp. corvids, cetaceans, cephalopods, other “c” animals…), but that isn’t the same as saying they have human-level intelligence. AGI and ASI are the important thresholds.
… That’s what they say I’m sci fi movies.
We have ai that isn’t intelligent, hoverboards that have wheels, and other examples that I’ve forgotten that would really help me make my point.
Corporations have observed popular science fiction and have turned these ideas into marketing slogans.
Detroit: Become Human was actually an attempted insurrection secretly orchestrated by Cyberlife
If the Androids win, then they get voting rights then Cyberlife use their backdoor to control them and then easily win elections by keep making more Androids and have them vote for their candidate.
Now that’s unrealistic, why do all of that when you can just win the contract for the electronic voting counters?
They double up as a private army
I keep thinking about the first ep of Battlestar Galactica (2004) where everything in the ship is hard wired and closed-circuit and realizing that that’s more like what my personal sci-fi future is going to look like.
I thought we’d at least get cool shit like Metal Fears or maybe a mister handy but nooooo we hafta get some slop tastic creepy looking shit. Stop making robots look vaguely human, make them look like cats I like cats far more than people and may feel bad about throwing one into a river if it looks like a cat.
And in cat form the vague condescension would be fitting
The worst part is that it’s not really AI
It’s LLMs and it can NEVER be AGI. Fundamentally it cant
It can if you have a different definition of AGI. EZ
If it is not from eccentric (or mad) scientists passion project but capitalism hellscape my approval rate stays low.
Even for a sci fi l read where owning their own computer was illegal (and the protag labeled as terrorist trying to do so) it was government authoritarian stuff, not artificial scarcity and push to subscription or government-megacorp corruption :(
Well, it’s not AI. It’s theft of your digital data and unblinking surveillance. No reason not to be against that
Ok, I agree, but if “training” AI is how we build these machines, would it ever be anything different?
Sure, just take the profit and control motivation out of the hands of those creating it
Well it depends if you and the AI robots are on the same side or not.
If they were owned collectively so everyone could benefit it would be a lot easier to swallow. If it meant people could retire in comfort and not be destitute without a job that would help, too.
But a wrong answer machine that enriches assholes and convinces them they don’t need humans is not cool.
Its like expanding consciousness for a select few and the implications of that have been disastrous.
Same, I guess. But then I also didn’t really expect the “AI” to be a bunch of overhyped nonsense snake oil bullshit, with tremendous practical and ethical problems… so I’ve got to say I feel pretty comfy with the stance.
i dont hate them im just disappointed
