Is this why my wife is constantly complaining that her playlists constantly keep playing the same songs over and over?
Fuck yeah, it is.
My favourite example of Spotify being shit is:
I want to play an album, so I go to it and press play. Then a bit later I want to queue a second album after the first one is done. How do I do that? As far as I can tell the answer is to go fuck myself. I have start a new queue or playlist with both albums in it.
That’s apart from all the basic software quality stuff like randomly restarting the queue.
Edit: so now I use finamp with jellyfin, which I can actually fix when it does something I hate.
The point of these apps is to leech as much money as possible.
An opposing goal would be to make the app better for users.
Have you fixed anything when it’s done something you’ve hated? I sometimes think, “I can fix this” and the I let my workarounds last for years. Like a leaky faucet where I fix it by rotating the handle not to 180° but to like 185.
Yeah, I try to make a point of using free software and contributing where I can. It does have to rise to a certain threshold of annoyance though.
No, that’s just random being random. In order for something truly random to feel less random to the average person, you have to reduce the repetition.
and that is what spotify actually does: https://engineering.atspotify.com/2025/11/shuffle-making-random-feel-more-human
<sigh>… And here I am, expecting “shuffle” to be a random ordering without repetition at all, like a silly person apparently.
You mean “shuffle” like when you shuffle a deck of cards and have exactly the same cards still but in a different order with no single card repeating because you started out with a deck of cards and why would there suddenly be an extra card or 5 of the same face value in the deck because that’s just crazy talk? That kind of shuffle?
Yeah sorry, Spotify doesn’t do that.
My problem with Spotify shuffle was that it always ended up throwing a similar order of songs. The same group of songs would end up in the same general position on the playlist every time. It’s not random, and it stands to reason that people doesn’t actually want real random order. But it was super obvious, noticeable and quite annoying to hit the same songs at the same time on your walk every single time. They even admitted publicly that their shuffle function sucks.
This is why I switched!!! I don’t use streaming services much, but I hated spotify’s shuffle and general music suggestions. So I tested qobuz and tidal, and can confirm that tidal’s suggestions are far superior to Spotify’s. I still prefer collecting albums and listening to them individually though
that is exactly what it does
the fewer repeats is for when you listen to the same playlist multiple times, not for the sequence itself
This is the difference between randomly choosing songs and randomly choosing songs without repetition.
Both are random but the later is much better for humans.
https://www.statisticshowto.com/sampling-with-replacement-without/
Of course there are other possible methods of choosing. It seems like Spotify is doing some kind of weighting from another comment posted here.
Idk why the donwvotes. This is how these players implement shuffle, because people don’t actually want a random shuffle most times.
Maybe people disliked my fun fact, maybe I came off the wrong way, maybe people took offense at my typo. It doesn’t matter much. I comment for me! (This comment included)
There is zero chance this is true.
Probably just lying to their boss. I have an AI obsessed boss and regularly lie about how much I use it because productivity is actually measured entirely by their perception of you and not by any real metric.
I thought about lying on my last report but decided to not. At this point they’re going to have to fire me if they can’t accept the truth. I’m not lying to save my skin.
If I was working foe spotify I would honestly lie just to do something better than ask an AI to do bullshit for me
I’m not so sure. I could believe their entire productivity has been consumed by failing AI slop in code reviews.
Spotify’s best dev reporting for stand-up
I need to watch scary movie again. Haven’t seen that since … Probably some time in the 00s. It’s probably super problematic though.
Eh… funny is funny
That explains how Anna’s Archives got in
I was so excited to get my grubby hands on that music only to later learn it was hundreds of terabytes…
You were expecting to be able to burn out all the music in the world (yes, hyperbolic, shut up) on a couple DVDs?
Its also not sorted in any way that’s usable.
Promotes ICE and uses AI. What a company of assholes.
Well…
They are swedish
Used to be, anyway. They don’t act like they are.
Is that supposed to be impressive? Spotify is among the dumbest, shittiest apps. It’s literally just a music library player.
Spotify doesn’t exist because it’s some genius app. It exists because of legal control. They have no reason to make the app better. Indeed their shitty capitalist motives continue to enshittify the app.
Notifications don’t even work for most of my saved podcasts.
Spotify’s functions have not changed a bit since 2016. It is literally the same application, what has changed are the tiny things they’re doing for compatibility but that is not really worth mentioning. Intentionally leaving UX out.
Honestly what code is there to write for this glorified web browser? They’re probably also outsourcing most of their data collection and recommendation algorithms.
Buy physical media, rip CDs, share shit and that’s it
Find a musician you like. Buy their music on Bandcamp. Download as FLAC.
I wouldn’t place too much trust in Bandcamp. It was acquired by Epic Games and then sold to Songtradr shortly after, it’s waiting to enshittify. It might also be better to buy off of labels and artists directly if you want to “support” an artists or a label. Used CDs and vinyls are great too.
Yeah I download the files right away. It creates something of an Odysseus Pact I think. The second they stop offering me the downloads DRM free, I download the files DRM free elsewhere.
I find Bandcamp missing most of the artists I listen to. I’ve had a lot more success buying from Qobuz and beatport.
Do you know what we call someone that doesn’t write a single line of code?
Anything other than a “developer”.
Lmao, exactly. If you’re not writing the code you’re not the developer, the AI is the developer. Youre just another asshole who gets paid to do nothing.
This sounds like such a fucking nightmare. I got into software because I like writing code. Their job is now the equivalent of a full time PR reviewer.
PR reviewer but the dev was drunk, sometimes is a genius, sometimes is eating sand, doesn’t follow guidelines, likes to duplicate code, and forgets what was in the original task description after a while.
And even if you babysit it and carefully tell it all the mistakes, it will learn nothing and suggest the same stupid mistakes next tim. I did actually know a human just like AI and he kept his job for years before quitting to grift another company because management refused to believe he sucked. So I’m not optimistic about AI screwing up discouraging business leaders.
They wheren’t been coding anything even before AI
wheren’t
Hm. A new way to tell something is shit without actually using these words
Has Spotify had any new code written?
Bullshit
It’s quite possible they already fired their best developers
This is spotify. It’s just a music player. The overwhelming bulk of the code was probably written like 20 years ago by a 15 year old.
Look at the feature list bragged about. It’s really simple stuff. I can absolutely believe they vibe coded that stuff.
The “hardest” one was to feed listener history to an LLM and have it generate a playlist based on the titles. That’s such an absurdly trivial thing to do.
It’s not rocket science. It’s a trivial streaming music player.
How is that still a reason to brag about
Glad i moved away from Spotify a year ago. Happy to ve using Qobuz and bandcamp
Even if you don’t subscribe to Qobizz their magazine helps me find new music all the time
