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    Ad Company: How do we sell mass surveillance… By helping sad kids and cute puppies. Keep it short so people don’t have time to think to hard about it.

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      Yup. I wouldn’t put it past the average person to see this and be happy. It hits the feel goods and for people who aren’t already attuned to digital privacy concerns they likely aren’t going to extrapolate the end game.

      Privacy has always been a slippery slope issue which makes it very difficult to explain to people without sounding like a conspiracy theorist. Only when it’s too late and people are negatively impacted does it become obvious, and by then it’s too late.

      Another area that isn’t getting enough attention is Amazon Sidewalk. They’re actively building out a network so these devices can share information (albeit limited) with each other even if you deny them internet access. Again, the tech is cool, but the possibilities are concerning.

      As a kid I used to love tech and I remember reading CES coverage with anticipation and wonder. When Google Glass was demo’d I thought it was the coolest thing. Now there’s no way I’d voluntarily put AR glasses that weren’t FOSS on my face.

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        This is 100% the experience I have had. Could not vibe harder with this.

        Most of the time people have paid a premium for their new watch, camera, door bell, service and you try to point out that it connecting to the cloud or AI is overly complicated and not required for the result they are so happy about. You go on to say that the company is probably selling, exploiting and using that data to minipulating you… But you just come off as unhinged.

        There is nothing good about america atm the only benifit is that there are some really good examples of why “I’ve got nothing to hide” is deeply flawed. This helps cut through to normal people.

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        They already partnered with flock last year, the same flock that shares with “law” enforcement

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          I was trying to point out that this feature may be even worse than that because it doesn’t even require a formal law enforcement request. If this becomes what it looks like, even private contractors will be able to access it without raising any alarms, further lowering the bar.

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      It’s not that it will be abused. It means this private company already does much more with it, about you. Oh wait, not a private company, one of the worst companies of all time

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    I wonder how hard it would be to rework this advertisements to be what it’s actually used for:

    • Immigrants spotted! Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
    • Automatic License Plate Recognition with Flock (now a partner), found a “criminal”. Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
    • etc.
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      Ok but you can just rewrite this meme with your deauth packets on the left side and Wifi 6 on the right side.

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        So still effective right now. I wardrobe as a hobby when I get bored and there’s very few APs ready for this. We’ve got a few years.

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            I did, but that’s hilarious so I’m gonna keep it.

            I commute and travel a good amount, it gives be something interesting to do 🤷‍♂️

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    The next step they’ll take is hooking into the amber alert system to find missing kids. Then, it will be finding “criminals,” which applies to basically everyone thanks to NPSM-7.

    The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.

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      The fun part is that they’re already at the “criminals” stage and we have been for a while. The marketing team is just backing into it and manufacturing consent.

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      The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.

      has it? the kind of critical thought that easily dispels this fallacy isn’t being applied right now on a global scale as evidenced by the fact that people are blaming russia for the epstein illuminati ring.

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        Not sure that I’m following/understanding. I’m saying that skeptics of the “if I’ve got nothing to hide” argument were correct. You do have something to hide if the people in power suddenly change the definition of what’s legal.

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          the “i have nothing to hide” argument is easily dispelled by several avenues of critical thought; including the one your comment points out.

          this sort of critical thought is not being applied to the russia/epstein narrative that’s taking hold on american politics right now.

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    I hate it so much that these dystopian devices are all advertised as a positive thing and, worst of all, that there are millions of dumbasses going “well that sounds like a great idea!”

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    There should be a version where they’re brown and at the end they suddenly get bags put over their heads by Trump’s paramilitary.

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    “they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

    Yes I know the issues with the founding father narrative. However, I think that this quote is very true and applies to the situation we are currently facing.

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    That’s actually insane to advertise that Gestapo feature. I’m literally shocked - which happens (unfortunately) rarely these days. There is so much shit going on in this world

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    What brand do people recommend to switch family members off to? I self host my security but for other family that aren’t tech savvy at all which brands are good for privacy and intuitive to use?