Apple has set a new deadline of November 1, 2026 for all Patreon creators to switch from Patreon's legacy billing system to the App Store's in-app purchase system in the Patreon app on the iPhone and iPad, as reported by TechCrunch. Note: This image has been edited to include a pile of cash. Patreon is a platform where creators such as YouTubers can receive payments from fans, which can be a valuable revenue stream alongside ads and sponsorships.
  • JChildermass@lemmy.caEnglish
    17·
    6 days ago

    I didn’t even know there was a Patreon app. I signed up through the website. On a computer. Old school.

  • TheFonz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    7 days ago

    Timmy Cook is just a bean counter. He’s got nothing to innovate or build. That’s Apple has been buying back shares non stop. Their lead designer jumped ship a while ago. It’s only a matter of time.

    • MortUS@lemmy.worldEnglish
      410·
      6 days ago

      Right, the alternatives are sooooooooooo much better.

      Googles track record is on point , android for the win. (/s)

      Getting rid of Apple entirely would be like removing Coke from the beverage marketplace. It just allows the competition to worsen and consumer choice to be less.

      Apple > Google as a company in every moral category

        • MortUS@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          I didn’t think it would be such a stretch to say Coke > Pepsi but whatever bro. Apple is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less intrusive and integrated into the American government than Google.

          Google may as well be state sanctioned with how much they’re integrated with American military and as American spyware. So if those are the only choices for most people then yeah, I’d absolutely defend Apple over Google.

          Don’t worry, I’ll catch the next bandwagon.

      • Lfrith@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        It is because there are less roadblocks to completely changing out the OS to be completely degoogled than it is to do the same for an iPhone or iPad. OS is the part that is the most damaging than the hardware itself, and alternate deAppled OS for iPhones and Ipad are pretty much nonexistent.

  • Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    7 days ago

    Choose another payment method. Choose another platform - web based? - where these fees don’t apply. Hell, buy a throwaway droid phone to keep your money from apple’s greedy hands.

    • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
      4·
      7 days ago

      Google imposes the same restriction, if you buy a digital service (such as a Patreon subscription) you need to pay the Google tax.

      I don’t know if Patreon got an exemption from Google, but any smaller developer doesn’t for sure.

  • qyron@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    8·
    6 days ago

    There are a few EU alternatives. Why are those not being considered.

    LiberaPay is one.

  • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    7 days ago

    Makes me think why ever since Photoshop was first created, Apple became the go-to for creatives for decades, and now Apple thinks it wants more money than just the fanatics going after their latest product.

    • stellargmite@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      7 days ago

      Apple screwed their pro market anyway. Sometime back . The history with apple and creatives relates more to print history I’d guess . Adobe needs to be ditched , and is in some areas. Windows is a shitshow as we know. There are lessening reasons to be wedded to either Mac OS or Windows as they continue to enshittify and I for one welcome it.

      • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Apple keeps screwing up, just look at the latest hideous update of macOS and its “Liquid Ass” interface

  • lofuw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    41·
    6 days ago

    Yes! Exploit the morons as much as they’re willing to be exploited!

    None of them have the brains/balls to fight back.

    • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      4 days ago

      This is the second phase of enshittification. They are hurting yhe businesses with this, not the consumer.

  • Hawanja@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    7 days ago

    Yet another reason to never ever use Apple. So if I just use the Patreon website and not an app, do I still have to give Apple 30% of my money? Seems like that should be illegal.

    • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      Thats exactly how it works for twitch and other stuff. If you’re on mobile go to the website instead of the app otherwise they take a cut

      • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        Many apps either only sell on website or just make it 30% more expensive when paid via app
        That is long the case

  • FireWire400@lemmy.worldEnglish
    901·
    7 days ago

    I hope Patreon will just switch off the ability to pay through the iOS app, along with a nice fuck you-message to Apple that pops up when you first open the app

    • lofuw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      That would be nice, but when Apple says “jump,” all the other businesses ask “how high?”

      The world is full of morons with more money than sense.

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      It reminds me of gas stations that only accept ATM cards and not credit cards, because they don’t want to lose the 3% that credit card companies take per transaction. They’re trying not to lose that 3%, but it will inconvenience some customers and lose them some business. That could easily be worse than 3%.

      So yes Patreon could say “go find a laptop and enter your credit card number in our web page” but there are people who won’t do all that because they expect to be able to pay with one tap. And businesses are on the AppStore because that great payment experience makes it super easy for them to convert customers.

      It’s just not as straightforward as saying “fuck you Apple, I’ll take my business elsewhere.”

    • lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish
      34·
      7 days ago

      Last time this came up Patreon simply allowed the creators to charge the commission directly on top of the price for non apple users, or eat the 30% loss. So everyone not using iOS would pay, say, $5/month, iOS users would pay $5+30%. Hope they retain that option.

        • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          It’s logical but it probably scares away some customers. That’s why the “just eat it” option exists. iOS gives you access to an enormous market and payments are slick and easy. Creators may want $5 but if they can get 30% less from 500% more people, it’s still a good business for them. There’s no strict reason why they must obsess over taking 100% of the sticker price. There are a million examples of businesses who are willing to accept a discount for high volume business.

        • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
          14·
          7 days ago

          Is it? Previously this was considered tips

          Now it’s 30% for what? Running a payment gateway and hiding an unsubscribe button deep in the App Store UI.

          Competitively payment gateways charge 1-3%, but when you lock down a platform you can charge 10x that.

        • lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          7 days ago

          Yeah, I remember cause my Patreon account asked me what I wanted to do about apple trying to steal my money

          p.s. I never push Patreon so have no subs lol

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        Your math is wrong. If you want the creator to still get $5 with apple stealing 30% you would need to pay ~43% extra.

        $5/0.7 = $7.14

        1/0.7 = 1.42857

        • lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I don’t remember the math, there was a button to charge apple users more so we got what we were supposed to