• Furbag@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Literally anything but FOSS, huh?

    Out of the frying pan and into a cold frying pan.

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        21 days ago

        It unironically is, and it’s not entirely the fault of the users either. The average person doesn’t know what FOSS means, what instances are, or what a federated service is and many platforms do a poor job of explaining what those things are and why they are superior.

        Additionally, people need to understand that FOSS is not a selling point to the average user and that throwing that term around will go in one ear and out the other. As far as they are concerned their apps are already free because they don’t have to pay a transactional monetary value for them and “open source” is beyond meaningless to them and they couldn’t care less.

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    22 days ago

    I looked it up in the App store out of curiosity and holy crap that app almost as bad as TikTok for privacy. Though I suppose people jumping ship from TikTok aren’t too concerned about data privacy or else they wouldn’t have been using TikTok in the first place.

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    21 days ago

    Its website says the platform will remain “impartial” to political agendas, won’t shadowban users or content, and will “uphold social responsibility.”

    I don’t feel, in this day and age, like you can be politically impartial (i.e. allow fascists to use your platform to spread propaganda) while simultaneously upholding social responsibility (i.e. not allow fascists to use your platform to spread propaganda).

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      21 days ago

      Yeah, I gave it a shot. I opened the app, and immediately scrolled past a “Jews are secretly ruling the world” conspiracy theory post from a user named something like @ItsAlwaysTheJews… Okay, maybe a fluke. Not a great first impression, but let’s see what else the app has to offer. Then a few posts later there was a “Hitler was right about the Jews” post.

      So yeah, it has definitely fallen prey to the Nazi Bar problem.

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      21 days ago

      You can be arguably impartial. Youre not banning them for being Nazis you’re banning them for all the stuff Nazis do like the racism. I would also argue you shouldn’t be politically impartial and just ban Nazis because Nazis should not feel welcomed.

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      21 days ago

      If you look into the founder, you’ll quickly realize that he’s very much biased and has a lot of agendas to push, and I have no doubt in mind that this is reflected in his platform.

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    22 days ago

    Larry Ellison tool over Tiktok to stifle anti israel and pro Palestine voices and the NPCs thought it was all about China.

    Told you so.

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      21 days ago

      The attraction to tt was the algorithm. Yt’s algo is garbo. Yt just gives you more of the same, whereas tt would magically align you with your people and your needs. Yt is sorta trying to do that right now, but it’s all from spying on you, rather than algorithmically.

      It’s like the difference between having a conversation with somebody irl about having itchy feet and then suddenly your algorithm is filled with ads for views cures for itchy feet, vs slowly figuring out that you’re neurodivergent, and then through watch time and liked comments, starting to feed you stuff that other people like you like, and you end up in whatever corner that is most useful to you.

      It’s the difference between your platform ONLY being one video at a time and the devs HAVE to figure out what you MIGHT like, vs a platform that feeds you choices and a feed and tries to guess your categories and shit. It’s very, very different, and imo tt was much, much better.

      It’s funny but, when people talk about what tiktok is just x-thing, they’re really really telling on themselves. Like if people say it’s just slop or teens dancing, it’s pretty well known, at least to people who have USED tiktok, that that’s really fucking bad unless the person is themselves a teen. Unfortunately, it’s usually a conservative senator or someone’s dad and it’s just eewwwww

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        21 days ago

        Yt just gives you more of the same, whereas tt would magically align you with your people and your needs.

        That sounds like the exact same thing to me but slower. And you seem to be implying that TikTok doesn’t spy on you, which I highly doubt.

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    22 days ago

    Wow the ads for this app keep appearing! It will be another blue sky in less than a year

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    22 days ago

    41k new users in 4 days? Not too bad, but certainly not a mass exodus. Tiktok’s user base is quite large, although I don’t know the US specific user base size. It is a shame people don’t choose better alternatives though.

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      22 days ago

      Tiktok’s user base is quite large

      875 million to over 950 million daily active users (DAU) globally as of Jan 2026.

      It is a shame people don’t choose better alternatives though.

      TikTok was the better alternative. That’s half the joke. As soon as it caught on, the plutocrats stepped in and seized control

      Not unlike how Facebook bought out and gutted Instagram or JP Morgan took over Reddit and cleaned out all the lefties before taking it public.

      That’s before you get into the marketing budget that social media needs to build the kind of massive userbase you’re asking for.

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    21 days ago

    I never use Tick Tock but when I saw this headline I decided to sign up for this. All I saw was a bunch of it Arabic writing and Arabic posts. It might be popular but it’s not popular in North America. Deleted immediately.

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      21 days ago

      I mean, it’s charted #1 on social media on the app stores. It’s an explosive rise in popularity, but that’s not unheard of. If anything, I suspect that the popularity is manufactured. It’s likely some company running an astroturf campaign to capitalize on the fact that people are tired of TikTok’s censorship BS.

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        21 days ago

        Or people are just tired of zionist propaganda and want to support a palestinian made app

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          21 days ago

          My big concern right now is actually the fact that the “no censorship” part is already being weaponized by Nazis. I suspect it will quickly fall prey to the Nazi Bar Problem. I gave the app a fair shot. Opened it up, and the very first post was a “the Jews are secretly running the world” post from an account named something like @ItsAlwaysTheJews. It had a caricature of a Jew (big nose, long sideburns, and yarmulka) reaching out of a TV to steal a watcher’s brain.

          Okay, not a great first impression, but that’s inevitable on a free speech app. Let’s keep scrolling. Three or four more posts down, and I was met with a “Hitler was right about the jews” post. Yikes. The fact that those were up front and center (on the default “Ranked” sort) for my brand new account was… Not a great sign.

          Time will tell. I do hope it succeeds, because TikTok is clearly an awful choice. But it needs to succeed for the right reasons, and not just become a Nazi cesspit.

          Edit: I just opened the app again after posting this comment, and the second post on my feed was a white pride “they’re trying to replace us/white genocide” (common white power talking point to recruit new members) post:

          Edit 2: Looking at the account’s follower list, it looks like users are largely using the Palestinian genocide to justify Nazi imagery. Equating Israel’s actions with Jews in general. There are a few straight up Hitler glorification accounts on the follower list, which have “the Jews are genociding Palestine” types of posts right alongside 1488 posts, swastikas, and Nazi salutes. Here is a quick screenshot of some of the followers:

          And here is a screenshot of how those followers are using the Palestinian genocide to justify the holocaust:

          The upper post is a bunch of dead Palestinian kids and babies lined up in a row. The lower post is obvious. Both (re)posted by the same @HitlerTheHero account.

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            21 days ago

            the “no censorship” part is already being weaponized by Nazis.

            Yeah, this is the inevitable result with any app that tries the no censorship schtick. It happens every single time, obviously this time won’t be any different.

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            Holy crap that’s even worse than I thought. I tried making an account just to check it out myself even though I’m not at all interested in the service itself, but their email verification emails just never come through even though I tried several times (I’m using Proton, and no they didn’t end up in spam). Seems like I’m much better off, never having to come into contact with… that.

            So this isn’t even a “from the frying pan into a slightly cooler frying pan” situation, but more like “from the frying pan into the open core of a nuclear reactor”. I wouldn’t be surprised if this even further radicalises Americans

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    TikTokers. thought i had the best weed. blocked 1000s of bot accounts on facebook. trying to cause a buffer overflow. they pera-booted me with no discussion. no timeout anymore. never saw an ad in 10 years

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    22 days ago

    How is the change any worse than the current state? Isn’t this all just propaganda anyway to tank the value after the change?

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      22 days ago

      They’re blocking the word ‘Epstein’ in DMs and also asking people to list their immigration status.

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      22 days ago

      Isn’t this all just propaganda anyway to tank the value after the change?

      What?!

      Larry Ellison bought it last week, bad things you’re hearing isn’t “propaganda”…

      It’s people who know what is happening, or even just who Larry Ellison is

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        22 days ago

        Chinese vs US propaganda through the app and algorithm. When you are being played you are being played.