Are AI PCs the ones with insufficient RAM because the AI companies bought all the future production?
I think that ram hasn’t been made yet for AI centers that haven’t been made yet.
And also paid for with hypothetical money that doesn’t exist lol
Stop using pointless slop no one gives a shit about as a selling point?
What are you, some kind of terrorist?
If terrorist now means defending the customer’s right then I am a terrorist!
“AI” is not a use case for a computer. Plain and simple. A real use case would be for instance to edit videos or code or create spreadsheets, and what the everloving shit does adding ✨Agentic and Conversational AI✨fix with literally any use case?
Sure, researching can be a use case for AI stuff, as well as just talking with it, but there’s no reason to sell an entire fucking class of laptops labeled “AI PCs” when the only thing it has is windows 11 copilot (lobotomised ChatGPT) and an NPU advertised as a “future compatibility” feature…
I use AI quite a bit for when I have to deal with something again that doesn’t have a simple documentation or stack overflow / reddit thread, and I know all too well I will never need agentic anything.
The one most useful AI for coding is supermaven, which is literally just auto complete plus but it doesn’t just do things, it works like any other tab completion.
Pretty sure no software dev at windows has ever really given these things a proper workout and still found them essential. Windows is really out here advertising Linux.
Their deluded vision is that they think the traditional user interface is going away. Rather than interact with a machine, you’ll just be walking around, sipping coffee, having thoughtful conversations with a bot laughing along with your jokes as it writes your letter and does your taxes.
And it can even defuse the bomb at site B while you’re making dinner.
Wake me when it can plant a bomb at site B while I’m making dinner
Wake me when it can make dinner while I defend the bomb site
Wake me when
The dream of lonely boring tech douches
Rather than interact with a machine, you’ll just be walking around, sipping coffee, having thoughtful conversations with a bot laughing along with your jokes as it writes your letter and does your taxes.
So, basically the computers from Star Trek: TNG. I’d go for that, but unfortunately, what we’ll get instead is enshitified AI slop which exists to suck a subscription fee out of you every month while pushing ads.
What is the average person even going to use an NPU for? There’s not a whole lot of useful things that can even be run on one.
The fuck even is an NPU? Is it like a NUC? I guess at least the N in NPU actually means something but I still hate this.
It stands for Neural Processing Unit. It’s a processor for running AI. They multiply lots of small numbers really quickly.
I know what it stands for, it just seems kind of unnecessary and dumb. Maybe there were people saying the same things about GPUs back in the day, idk
I use windows click to do all the time in work.
I’m constantly being sent screenshots of tables with data in it that I can’t copy paste. (Side note, why take a perfectly searchable .csv and send me a screenshot of it???!!)
The tool really is a game changer for my productivity.
I sure as hell wouldn’t enable it on my personal computer though.
OCR exists and performs well with older hardware.
Collecting your raw data isn’t enough for Microsoft so they might use your PC and power to process your data.
Maybe you’re aware and it doesn’t fit your need, but in case not: there’s a snipping to ocr tool provided with PowerToys. Win+shift+T and select a zone, il ocr it and puts it in your clipboard. Good stuff. There’s also NormCap that does the same : https://dynobo.github.io/normcap/
Hey thanks! I’ll check them out!
WTF even is a Microsoft SlopC? Something that has hardware to speed up their AI deleting important files and sending your private data to hackers? I don’t think we need that fast-tracked, Windows 11 already does it well enough.
Is amazing Microslop is still around given have shitty their products have.
It’s always baffled me how Microslop’s entire business model as far back as I can remember seems to be “Make the shittiest possible version of every product imaginable, then watch it for some reason become the global standard, then make it even worse and suffer no consequences.”
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
They can afford to have AI fail, almost every business in Europe and the US buys their software. That’s not going away anytime soon
That made me wonder what os china uses. Turns out they use a chinese made linux distro called kylin for most consumer desktops and 90% of govenment desktops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylin_(operating_system)
Fucking based.
Unfortunately its propriotary ): (pretty sure that violates the gpl but I guess china doent care.) (Although there is an open source version called neokylin!)
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Always glad to hear some good news :)
I think it’s just bad marketing. Microsoft, as they often are, just messed up their marketing strategy with mixing controversial and creepy stuff like Recall and actually useful things like local TTS and STT, translation, image recognition and manipulation stuff. All these ML functions offloaded to an NPU are good additions to an OS. Computers with NPU don’t have to be Copilot+ branded to be useful.
Runs diagnosis tools on AI laptop.
No AI feature actually runs locally.
NPU stays idle 100% of the time.
Your entire digital life is uploaded to Microslop and used to train LLMs…
again.
Hmm, they might’ve scrambled to add Recall et al, because those other features you named don’t particularly need to be offloaded. Except for maybe TTS, you’re not gonna run these in the background all the time. And if you need the occasional translation, it’s fine, if it takes a bit longer.
At least, I would’ve absolutely seen headlines à la “Microslop wants you to buy an expensive new PC – to do things your current PC can perfectly fine”.
You aren’t wrong that these functions don’t NEED NPU. But it helps with performance and offloading. What they also doing is opening APIs for software developers to use NPU and built-in models. For example, Adobe and Zoom use it for background filters. Again, with no CPU/GPU load.
And for your final point - this is not anything new for a company to try selling you a product that you don’t necessarily need. Their job is to make it attractive enough for you to upgrade.
Yes yeeeea, die …trash!
I couldn’t understand Microsoft’s motivation here at all, until this reminder (from the linked article):
This development doesn’t bode well for Microsoft’s CEO, Satya Nadella, who saw the company miss the platform shift to mobile devices and tablets and desperately wants to avoid chalking up another failure in yet another momentous platform shift.
it makes so much sense to me now
emphasis on “desperately” for sure
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