• Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Those two counties are Petroleum County, with a population of about 500, and Garfield County with a population of about 1,100. Both counties have a single town with about a quarter of the population.

      This means a majority of the population live in the country, and likely work the lands they live on. This means no commute to work, which is what was measured.

      This is a flaw in the methodology. Rurual Montana is not a bastion of urban planning. It is a mistake to look at travel to work exclusively. People need to travel to many destinations. And those living in those two counties probably use cars for everything else.

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        I wouldnt say it is a flaw, really. The data in general is a good approximation of auto dependence. And any researcher who isn’t an idiot will see the same thing you did and simply discard the data in these counties as obvious outliers. Sure, we can imagine a more accurate metric for measuring auto dependency for the purposes of creating a very nice map for public consumption. But it your purpose is simply to conduct some statistical analysis, I don’t think this dataset is bad - or at least not a bad start.

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      I’m wondering that too. Just a guess, low population density with lots of farmers ‘working from home’ since they live on their farm.

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      low population density means high variance in stats.

      always expect the highest and lowest stats to come from those areas.

      But it’s probably farmers who live on their farm or something.

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      What’s going on in that one area in Montana?

      Nothing.

      I drove though there once. Hours of seeing nothing but road.

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      A portio of that area I know is full of retirees who relocated to escape the woke coasts. (Speaking anecdotally of extended family that relocated to that zone for a community of old conservatives.) So I wonder if retirees are counted.

      The area in Arizona thats a little lighter may also be a shade of that too. Snowbirds might be skewing it with people who just plain don’t commute.

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      I’d expect it’s pretty lightly populated at least, as that generally makes it easier to stand out in statistics.

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    Four out of the top nine counties are in NYC. Once again a common W for Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx (not you Staten Island, you suck)

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      Staten Island doesn’t have the subway infrastructure that other boroughs have. The one line it does have does has relatively high usage. Maybe it’s wise to expand it?

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        Im not saying Staten Island cant be good, there simply isn’t the political will to improve anything. If their government and people got the heads out of the sand they would notice that there is demand for more rail infrastructure. Kinda like how there’s significant amounts of unmet rail demand in Queens and Brooklyn (hopefully the IBX helps the issue)

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          You’re saying it as if Staten Island is its own city. The truth is that they can’t control the resources to build new lines. That’s something that only the city and state can do, and neither are prioritizing it rn

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            Sure but consider that the MTA could be investing money toward places that would more appreciate it, Queenslink and the IBX are well received and suffer from very little resistance from local politicians. The MTA has almost no reason to invest in a hostile area that until relatively recently was extremely anti public transportation (the MTA operates on a decade long timeframe at a time).

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        I can see how car dependency feels like a lesser issue, but car dependency destroys communities and even our shared humanity to some extent which in turn gives way to much larger problems

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    Swear to god, every heat map of the US highlights how much of a shit hole the Mississippi delta must be.

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    Are there maps like this for other part of the world? I’d imagine Europe has a much lower rate of car commuting.

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      In comparison to the US yeah probably but still overall pretty high would be my assumption.

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    Thanks for the reminder that suicide is a preferable alternative to living in the USA.

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    Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I only want to live in the NYC area of the US. Just take the train or bus, don’t worry about it.

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      America is essentially a third world country with just a handful of developed metropolitan areas

      And those few developed areas havnt meaningfully evolved or improved in decades and especially compared to the infrastructure developments seen in asia or Europe

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      The lack of sufficient population density to support public transit makes Americans crave cars. Population density is low because the US has the space, and the areas that are dense are stupidly expensive.

      I’d love to take a bus or light rail to work, but instead I end up having a saily commuteof over 100 miles round trip. In the city where I work, a 600sft studio apartment would cost an extra 30 grand a year versus my 3 bed, 2 bath place 50-ish miles away.

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    I feel like the only interesting bits are the yellow places that aren’t big cities (with their subways or whatever), and that aren’t places separated by water, where it makes sense that they travel across by ferry e.g. The few places where you’d expect cars to be the vast majority, but isn’t. Those seem interesting to look closer into.