Sad this got downvoted. The engagement was really good.
No one wins.
If there is a third world war I think either everyone will lose in one day (nuclear weapons), or it will be sabotage and ‘special military operations’ everywhere for decades, and not named as a world war until later.
If that’s right were already in it
Yes, we are.
The only good thing about it is that it isn’t the alternative: total nuclear annihilation. (Some days I wonder if that would be better)
The only winning move is not to play.
Tell me more about how you don’t understand war at all. Nobody wins.
Which America are you referring to? North, meso, or south?
In case you are referring to the United States of, they are losing allies and partners fast. They would have to fight wars on many fronts and that never ends well.
Furthermore, they are moving towards a civil war, so one of their fronts will be on their own soil.
Their arrogance and entitlement will prolong the war, but in the end, they’ll lose.
Some people think it goes to nukes immediately. I don’t think so. It will stay sidelined like chemical weapons that were used in WW1 but avoided and unused in WW2.
The US does not have the industrial capability that it once had and has struggled with manufacturing of electronic components. Now maybe that can be changed, but maybe not fast enough to matter. But as far as current capability they got combat experience and are the only nation that has proven ability to project military power worldwide. As long as logistics keep up they can kick serious ass.
China makes a ton of stuff already, and that would make a hell of a wartime production rate that can scale too. Their military is untested, but large, new and growing. They are the gorilla in the room. Hell they might think Russia is the easier fish to fry and take them on first.
But there’s also the chance of everything falling apart where most nations desintigrate into a long term state of fracture with infighting and homeland problems overriding any possibility of winning a global fight, and therefore preventing a large world war like we’ve seen in the past. Rand calls it neomedievalism
I’d get the Japanese American treatment. 👀
(I’m Chinese American)
So it depends on what you mean by “America”…
The constitution? Nah, its definitely dead and buried in a ww3 scenario.
Rich cis-het white conservative christian men? Yea they’d win, if you count living in a bunker¹ with trigger happy soldiers/security ready to overthrow them as a “win”; I bet the entire bunker will go into psychological breakdown after no outside + sunlight for a year.
¹Cuz Nukes went 💥🌇
Nobody wins. Someone just gets control of the official narrative.
But who’s the “you” you’re asking here?
Only if the opening move would be to unload its entire nuclear arsenal in every direction. And then they “win” a big charred ball of ash.
Who are the allies of each side?
The US would lose faster than most, as it is a higher priority target for nuclear weaponry.
America is unable to function by itself and is on tour to implode. How are they going to win a war, no one in the country is willing to put up a real fight either.
It is the most divided political landscape on the planet right now, on the brink of a potentional civil war, which is the only fight they will do if they decide to grow a spine.
The question shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of war. The purpose of war is to defeat your enemy and make them lose, it was never about making you win.
Its not like a video game where you just deal enough damage or accumulate enough points and your adversaies give up to grant you a victory.
War is an eternal conflict until the last man is standing. Its never been about winning always about not losing.
As much as anybody could “win” at war, I don’t think it would be possible with Trump as Commander in Chief. He wouldn’t have a head for tactics, and his blatant narcissism would refuse to allow generals (who are educated in war tactics and know what to do) to make decisions for him.
Realistically? If war broke out, I could see congress using it as a catalyst to finally impeach him. At least by removing Trump from office, they’d have someone who would actually listen to counsel.
But if Trump remains in office, he’d inevitably end up doing whatever is best for Russia. And that means he’d likely end up with the US in a war of attrition, dragging things out as long as possible, with each side taking large losses while Putin sits back and watches it all play out (and quietly takes Ukraine while everyone is distracted by their own wars).
