• luridness@lemmy.ml
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    17 days ago

    Do the Americans not realise that… like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.

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      The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.

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      They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.

      That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.

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      Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn’t give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.

      Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That’s disgustingly low, too… But still, he does it anyway.

      This isn’t new. Most Americans have no agency. We’re just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.

      For every sane person speaking out, there’s two to three others that have given up on everything. They’ll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don’t do anything. They don’t vote, they just take it because they’ve given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.

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      It’s not about imigration. Only brown and black are “imigrants”.

      …although even white women are being killed now

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      100%, my family only came to this god awful country to escape the Holocaust before it began. I find it absolutely absurd that now we have decided to shut our border. Even crazier is they keep saying they want legal immigration yet they make it impossible to do so.

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    You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!

    -People who Complained about Rights during Covid!

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    Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your ‘arrest’. You’d be lucky to see them again.

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      Right. I hear people pushing passport cards. I can so easily imagine

      “Here’s my passport card”

      “Thanks”


      “Where’s your id?”

      “I gave you my passport card”

      “No you didn’t/what passport card?”

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        To prevent these tragedies, the Trump administration will simply offer numerical tattoos that can’t be lost.

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    Most of them can’t read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don’t care enough to look for proof.

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    Another U.S. citizen: 22-year-old Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales was in custody for 25 days and transported to facilities in Louisiana, Texas, and New Jersey. In one detention center, she told WJZ Investigates she slept on the floor.

    Her legal team provided documents, including her Maryland birth certificate and immunization records, along with other records they said they verified through an expert at Johns Hopkins University, but the Trump Administration is not backing down.

    she now must wear an ankle monitor.

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    I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

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      It’s because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting “criminals” off the streets. So it’s worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.

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        I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they’re doing. Don’t afford it ant legitimacy. There’s no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.

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          The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can’t really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.

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            Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren’t actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they’re bigots. They’re white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.

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              I think you are confusing the legitimacy of their positions and their message. Their positions are legitimate because, unfortunately, they gained their positions legitimately, either through elections or some other documented process. That’s on us, ultimately. That makes what they have to say a matter of public record, and newsworthy. (There are a handful of Administration positions that are illegitimate, such as all these acting US attorneys, and the Courts are dealing with that separately.)

              The message is utter bullshit, and at least in some cases, not what their voters intended when they cast their vote. But how will those voters ever know if the message is never challenged in the first place?

              I believe it is possible to report the Administration’s positions, while also attempting to hold them to account. The alternative is for the media to ignore it altogether. But we all know Conservative media won’t do that. If other media simply refuses to cover the Administration entirely, that doesn’t invalidate their message. Only by letting us know what they are saying, as well as how bonkers it all is, do we have any chance of emerging from this.

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    There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.

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    Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you’re a different colour. What a shithole.

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      no no, that “or” should be an “and” – having paperwork doesn’t save you from getting fucked over

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    when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

    Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.

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      “Carry your social security card!”

      Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let’s get it over with.

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    Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.

    That’s why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.

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    There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.

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      And I’m sure we’ll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE…

      Unless you’re part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I’m not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.

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        I’m not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I’m scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

        I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

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          My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

          I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

          Oh for fucks sake there Internet Bravado, you might not have understood what my point was damn you sure as hell proved it.

          Don’t go around telling others to fight and die when you aren’t willing to do so yourself.

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            I’m not Jason Bourne. I’m some dude on the internet. And you don’t fight hoping solely for your benefit. You fight so those who follow have better odds.

            If it makes you feel any better, I already know what’s coming for me here. I’m part of a population that will absolutely end up in a mass grave before this ends.

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      You wont win against the most expensive military in the world. The only option I see is a general strike.

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        Well the economic desperation is certainly on the horizon. People are held back by their finances and jobs right now. When they cant meet their needs any more, they wont hold back.

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    i wonder when perceived immigrants are forced to wear somekind of mark on them, maybe a star.