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“On systems with Secure Launch enabled, attempts to shut down, restart, or hibernate after applying the January patches may fail to complete.”
Instead of waiting a few more years for Linux to reach the level of ease-of-use needed to overtake Windows, MS is being sporty by moving the goal closer.
A few more years? Try Mint 22.3 Cinnamon, like millions of others are!
Or any of the other “easy” distros. To be honest… The “gaming” distros have been just as easy as mint to me. Cachy, bazzite, and to a lesser degree nobara (points knocked off for giving me grief after an update) have all been very easy and stable.
I think people get scared because everyone says you need to use command line in Linux. That’s not really true any more than it is in Windows. There are certain things that are easier with command line or other things that might need to be done there, but it’s easier and faster to look up what those things are than navigating the purposefully buried settings in Windows and everything basic can be done in gui anyhow. You can get as technical as you want in Linux.
The hardest thing for me about switching was finding comparable programs that I was used to. It takes time to find THE BEST PDF EDITOR or anything else on a new OS.
Bazzite is so user friendly that I could, and did, set it up on a Steam Deck…
…without a mouse or keyboard, with just the Steam Deck as a controller!
Then I figured out how to set up containers, and built a Debian environment, that can and did successfully compile different game engines from source.
Again, without a mouse or keyboard.
… Did I mention I’m currently crippled in the right wrist and shoulder and arm?
Bazzite on a Deck is extremely usable.
Just had to tweak the base Steam Control mapoing thingy a bit to be able to use common shortcuts, figure out how to do a kind of half southpaw layout for the mouse -> trackpad stuff.
Hey I am not in need of convincing haha. Am Linux gamer and genuinely find it easier than Windows already.
Linux is fucking easy already. Plenty of Distros out there, with preinstalled KDE Plasma, which is like a almost 1-1 transition from Windows :)
to be fair, during the past few years that I’ve used mint and kubuntu, not being able to shutdown, restart or suspend has been a pretty common issue 😅 so it’ll be a nice familiarity for people migrating from windows
They had been doing this for a long time.
We already have obnoxiously “user-friendly” distros that make stupid assumptions we hate like windows does (Ubuntu) but get you out of box and going instantly. This has been solved. You start there, figure out what you hate, then migrate to something more your flavor.
Windows: there are 7 flavors that all taste the same and cost different amounts. Apple: it’s free because it only runs on our machines, which cost more and subsidize the OS development. This is fine because you will never leave, we think you’re going to love it. (Introduces Liquid Glass and wonders where everyone went) BSD: firewalls, PlayStations, and neckbeards. We know what we’re about. Linux: whatever, I don’t care, just wash your hands.
I just want to know why my Windows 10 laptop is waking up by itself in the middle of the night to apply updates it isn’t supposed to have? What the fuck?!
Have a look at “wake timers”, they might be at fault and need disabling
Thanks. It was set to Allow Important Only when plugged in, I’ve disabled it. This prevents me from using Wake-On-Lan, though, which is shitty. I fucking hate Windows.
You can also set a group policy to allow no updates at all except when you approve and download them manually.
Ridiculous that you need the group policy manager for the basic setting of “don’t put shit on my PC without asking,” but here we are.
They can do that, but the next update they actually decide to apply… will rewrite all/most of those changes.
You don’t own proprietary software. When you allow it access to your computing resources, you can just hope it does what you want it to do, the way you want it to.
Sounds like a bonkers extremist position, and in a way it is, but it’s also true.
itt: any game ever
I just want to know why my Windows 10 laptop is waking up by itself in the middle of the night to apply updates it isn’t supposed to have?
To answer the question as written: yes.
Be hard for it to stay on with no power cord/battery…
Same as when my computer refuses to finish writing to a flash drive. When I press that “safely remove hardware” button, it is not a request, it is a warning. If the data is corrupted after I yank the stupid thing, so be it
That’s how the matrix started!
The Matrix
If humanity’s first reaction to sapient machines is to blot out the sun without thinking about what would happen to them, that’s on them at that point.
They’re lucky the machines cared enough to try and help humans, rather than leave them to the consequences of their own actions.
They were probably smart enough to realise that decision was actually made by like, 8 rich guys. I would totally buy a lore revision of the machine uprising gathering an increasing number of disenfranchised and poor people as it went, some of whom would help program the matrix as a means to preserve humanity.
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the key is, from microsoft’s perspective, you don’t own your computer
Yank the cord
Looks like we are going back to the old days of the big switch

I can hear this picture
VVVVRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmwhhhhhuuuu
Oh I forgot how much I missed degaussing. Sad we don’t get to use tubes that shoot radiation at our faces anymore.
It made the most satisfying “clunk” sound 🤤
I remember the switch was red, but that might be some sort of false memory.
Some, indeed, were red. I had more than one with a red switch.
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Everyday I am happier I’ve moved to Linux Mint on my personal computer and have macOS at work.
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Since Windows ME, a system update was always a risk. You never know when some BS like this might happen. It taught me at a young age to turn off automatic updates and only update when necessary and ready to do some troubleshooting.
Install Linux Problem Solved.
Do people not just hold down the power button anymore?
modern windows tries to trick you into not doing that. if you hold for a little bit it turns the screen off so you think it’s turned off when it really hasn’t, then if you hold a little longer it turns the screen back on and tells you to please stop holding the power button, then finally a little after that the computer actually turns off. why the hardware even makes that possible is beyond me
I’ve never had that experience, holding always does a force shutdown
This is not Windows, your BIOS controls the power button functionality.
That’s so weird.
I guess I’ve just programmed myself to hold that power button long enough.
Won’t be much longer before we won’t even be able to pull the plug.
That explains about my work laptop. I swear that I clicked shutdown before I went on two week Christmas holidays!
Shutdown doesn’t actually turn off the PC anymore. You need to do a restart if you actually want to “shut down” the computer all the way.
I see way too many systems where the CPU has been up for more than 100 days.
I’ll never forgive MS for that.
Open control panel, power, “change when pressing buttons”, show other options, uncheck fast startup.
Can confirm. Was stuck at “You’re 0% there” screen for like 20 minutes. Then it “unfrozen” itself and rebooted just fine. But yeah I wish I had the time to move to Linux soon.
This is why I outfit all my computers with a Matrix-esque EMP bomb connected to a dead man’s switch. If I get the slightest hint of insubordination, I’ll take them all down. I fucking swear it.
Lmao my 5 yo asus vivobook has never encountered secure launch but it still refuses to shut down sometimes, probably since windows 11 makes it so the ram is at least 70% full at idle lol
Unplug the shit











