cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/56521103
The all-electric Dacia Spring now starts at just €11,900
I don’t know why people are saying a 200km range is bad. Most people I know don’t drive more than 25km to work per day. Surely even 100km is perfectly fine for a daily driver.
My brother had an 80km range car for years and was perfectly fine.
Is it just that it’s not competitive at this price?
Exactly, most people just go to work, Kaufland and to visit grandma who most of the time is 100km away. You’re not buying a Dacia Spring to go from Lisbon to Oslo, you’re buying it as a car for daily use.
Thank you for considering Lisbon in your thoughts. It’s very appreciated.
Because propaganda has convinced people that a car is useless if it can’t go 300+mi AND only take a few minutes to be ready to do it again. Range anxiety, even though they only fill up maybe once a week and could easily charge an ev at home with just a standard outlet not even a special charger and keep up with their actual real daily use
The whole entire point of a car is long road trips though. Especially in Europe, you want to live as close to your job as possible.
In North America, the point is to be your main method of transportation. Work, groceries, friends, all require cars to get there in a reasonable time frame. Yes there are longer trips, and personally I would not feel comfortable with a 200km max range, because the nearest large towns are upwards of that already. But for those that rarely leave their cities, you could make it work, especially if your spouse had a gas / longer range car. Seems fine for a city car.
(still upvoted you because NA-centric discussion gets old)
It’s a really low price, but it’s also an incredibly shitty car with terrible safety scores.
And terrible range. Advertises 300Km per charge. You’re lucky if you get 200
I mean, that’s pretty on par for other manufacturers, rule of thumb is about half of rated range during winter. It’s not really the manufactures fault that part, the WLTP standard they have to use is just using a way too high percentage of steady-speed city driving to give a good idea of real-world usage for most people.
So, a Dacia?
I‘m not a car guy but I would like to add it also looks absolutely awful. Like so many cars from recent years.
It’s a rebadged Dongfeng EV.
False, it’s made in China, but from Renault itself as Renault kze
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Ever since Dacia was bought by Renault, it’s being marketed heavily throughout the EU :D foarte bun!
I’ve never noticed rhe brand before but in the last year or 2 I see a lot, really a lot of Dacias around here too (portugal).
No no, the line is
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Bad news!
The Dacia Sandero has been delayed.
“The all-electric Dacia Spring now starts at just €11,900 (around $13,900), thanks to a massive €5,000 (around $5,900 at current exchange rates) discount.”
24kwh battery, 300 km range or so .
300 km out of 24 kWh?
Press X to doubt.
300km***
*Downhill
**On ice
Depends on the weight of the vehicle.
Most of the people in this post complaining about the range obviously aren’t EV owners. I’ve just done a multi-country road trip covering thousands of km. Taking a 20 minute break every few hours is hardly arduous, you’d be doing something similar on your own anyway.
I agree. You have to take a quick stop anyway to go to the toilet, relax your muscles, eating a snack. So you’d still do it, while your car is quickly charging.
I would love this as a commute car (if it was available in the US). I do have to drive about 80km round trip but it’s only 2-3 times per week so it would be fine. The only caveat would be top speed which would be fine if it’s in the 100 kph range.
Get yourself a used Nissan Leaf. About the same price, does that range. I’ve had one as a commuter car for 10 years. It’s perfect. Only maintenance is new tires and wiper blades. It’s basically paid for itself in reduced maintenance and fuel prices.
Yeah I have seriously considered that. Especially since the vehicle I currently have gets about 17mpg… oof.
Family income of 30k a year max they really just wanna entrap people onto permanent debt.
Great! Anyway…
There are a lot of reasons that wouldn’t fly in the US:
- too tiny compared to the behemoths around. I’d be afraid
- doesn’t say speed but a lot of “city” cars have city speed limits: most people use high speed roads at least some of the time
- as average new car prices pass $50k, maybe people are less likely to have multiple cars than in the past
- legacy manufacturers only build smaller runs of higher profit trims, and have successfully bought protection from competition
When I was married, I did always have a small cheap commuter car, like a Civic, and ensure my ex had the big car that’s also More comfortable on road trips. But I’m no longer married so can’t justify multiple cars. My one car does need to serve the occasional road trip, so I’m more comfortable with my current 300+ mile range.
But there continue to be more full sized pickups on the road and those are what I notice with worse and worse driving.truck guys used to have pride in their driving skills but now they’re some of the worst and just seem arrogant that “I’m bigger than you so can do what I want”. I don’t even think I’d feel safe in my civic anymore and certainly not my old Miata , much less something smaller.
I’m really fascinated by the Slate truck’s simple and modular concept. If that succeeds I’ll be tempted to get that as a second car even with its limited range - it would add capability, a spare resource, and range is plenty for commuting
as average new car prices pass $50k, maybe people are less likely to have multiple cars than in the past
You’re quoting this on a car selling for about $15k?
