Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?
I wouldn’t mind playing games co-op with AI.
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Few games actually have that and even fewer have ones that play well.
I could see this being useful for those with disabilities like muscular dystrophy. Maybe let the AI handle repetitive, input-heavy parts and take over the gameplay at key moments so as to minimize muscle pain.
Great! Now the AI can play the video games for me while I do the dishes. I swear it was the other way around in the SciFi.
Shut up and get back down the mines or your robot manager-security-cop will have to terminate you. Meet your billionaire-enforced quota and you’ll live to enjoy another day of mining.
Merry Christmas from Chiron Beta Prime :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DyxaCYlfg
Plot twist: turns out that at some point, the billionaire got replaced by robots who have learned to be megalomaniac assholes.
Game companies: spend millions fighting cheating and cheat software.
Nvidia: here comes AI game assist!
Next: game companies can subscribe to NVIDIA anti-AI-cheating AI. This is innovation under capitalism.
Cheaters have been using object detection AI to cheat for quite some time
Why the fuck is AI always being applied to only parts of society that are fun?
So you can spend more time working shit jobs for shit pay. Aren’t you happy? 😊
I want LLMs to be used to create thousands of characters that have agency in like, Skyrim or something, and to watch the absolutely unhinged fucking chaos of what it creates.
I don’t want it to play games for me.
I do too so I’m making a game that does that.
Not sure if I’ll get to fully flesh it out but if I’m doing it it’s definitely coming.
I don’t even want that, I’d rather a game have its characters and writing created with intent by a person who cares.
When you create a character with one of those models you are creating that character with intent and purpose. What it thinks, talks, etc etc. it’s not easy to do that. The writing is still there.
In fact you’d take quotes you want the npc to say so that it understands how it uses language. The difference is that you might get a sentence constructed slightly differently.
You’re not. You’re not doing that work. The LLM is.
If you use ai as an additive technology rather a replacement to things then really cool, ethical oppurtinitites open up for its use.
Rather than training a voice actor for a small handful of npcs that say the same four lines ad infinitum,pay them the same amount to License their voice, train a model, and use that for the game. Pair this with an LLM and suddenly you have pcs capable of saying all kinds of hillarious shit.
Have the coders that always write box behaviour to write the behaviour of npcs. The give players the option to talk them into doing some weird LLM powered shit.
Like. You can use ai to add things to games. It doesn’t have to replace people’s
I think a part of why people hate it is that idiots are trying to use it to replace things people do.
Where it’s best is when it does things people can’t
I’m going to be honest those do not sound like good uses. I want games to be designed with intent, not on the spot by an LLM.
That would be so freaking cool
I can’t believe I’m not really not really flying a spaceship!
Leonard > Amy
That’s cool. AI can do art and writing and video games for me. It can watch all my shows. All I have to do is work and maybe sleep. Sounds fun.
I guess Elon won’t be needing gamers’ services to max out his characters anymore.
Fucking AI taking valuable jobs away again.
Y’all laugh but there are way too many people into idle games, not to mention people who prefer watching a stream (even without commentary) over playing a game itself.
I cannot comprehend why, though, just like I can’t comprehend how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun.
Can someone tell me how an idle game is a game? There is no game being played in one of those.
I was laughing along until you said “watching a stream (even without commentary)”. Yeah I’ve done that one. Sometimes I want to see what’s next in the game without spending 100 hours to get there ><. Also watching lets me mentally unwind, playing takes a mental toll.
I think we’re all kinda beat down by life, so I don’t really judge people on it. I just am not one of them, haha. (But I don’t even watch TV or movies much so I’m admittedly a weirdo).
I also don’t watch TV or movies – only Twitch streams. I’ve been this way even when not beaten down by capitalism and fascism though. Even when I’m taking a break from working on creative projects, it’s still nice to be able to turn my brain off and get the experience of seeing the game. Maybe my unmedicated ADHD makes me that way.
Cheats in single player games is a blast.
It gets old quick but it’s fun for a while.
how cheating (particularly single player) can be fun
Have you never played a game with unreasonable grind that saps all the fun out of it ? Often just to drive player hours and ‘engagement’. Multiplayer cheats however can die in a fire.
I suppose. When I’m referring to cheats, it’s more in regards to invulnerability, infinite resources, etc., which seem to sap the point of having a game in the first place. Like making the fun parts into a grind, rather than the other way around.
That said, I’ll also say sometimes part of the challenge is the grind, so it depends. You have to pick your own poison, right?
Like, take Silksong for example. You lose out on the full experience if you mod out the annoying run from bench to boss, it’s like a 40 second annoyance built in punishment. But I get why you’d do that-- it’s technically there for a reason but I get it. Hell, even the difficulty adjustment mods I can understand.
But making the bosses die in one hit or making yourself invulnerable? Now you’ve lost me, that’s like a core element of the game; you might as well just watch someone else play it because what’s the point.
When I was a child I used to ask my dad to input the invulnerability cheat in Doom. I was way too bad at movement, aiming and basically just everything, that I could have had fun otherwise. Likewise for Anno 1602, there I needed the money cheat because otherwise I’d just go bankrupt. I didn’t understand the income balance yet but I still had fun building economy chains.
I’m not sure I have a point here. Just remembered cheating as a child because I needed it. Probably haven’t cheated in 18 years now.
My dad entered in codes for me when I was really little, but that’s kind of another thing entirely. I don’t think little kids have an achievement oriented sorta version of play, so anything goes with them. Once you’re older, that dopamine rush just hits differently, though.
In education you could also consider it a form of scaffolding. Enabling someone to do something they normally can’t do is a form of development, like giving handicaps in games and stuff can foster the skills to not need them eventually.
Good analogy. It also brought to mind the bumpers you can enable for kids in bowling.
Then just don’t play that game lmao
You never used cheat codes in GTA San Andreas and the like? It’s a lot of fun
I actually thought about that after my comment and summoning a tank from nowhere was fun. At least for a little bit… but maybe mostly for the novelty of it all. Also I was like, 12.
I don’t watch others playing games, either, but someone who likes those streams told me he didn’t see a difference between watching good gamers play games and good football players play football.
AI will do all the fun and creative things for you so you can get back to work
Actually if they can use that to make good ai opponents for 4x games, it’d be pretty sweet
Except you don’t need a neural net to do this, nor would you really want one for it because it would be incredibly slow unless you use the GPU to run it which might be a bit busy running the actual game. It’s like a “make game run worse” option.
In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.
This kind of thing is only useful as tech demo for playing platformers and the like with the same inputs a human player would, basically more like a bot.
In game AI can be pretty sophisticated even without the addition of neural nets which could be OK with determining strategy based on player action, but really isn’t going to be good for the entire control.
Given that it has been the weak point in almost all 4x games in the past 30 years, I’d be happy if they give anything novel a try
I could see a way for it to work, but this tech certainly isn’t it and you’d need to balance the size of the model for memory use and performance.
Why would I want AI to play the game other than for testing?
Beat Elon in PoE
The bar is low i see.
Bold to assume having an AI play the game for testing is actually useful. Given how buggy games release nowadays i genuinely wonder which companies still properly have play testers. An AI whose results you mostly ignore is pointless.
An AI whose results you mostly ignore is
pointlessgood for driving up the share price artificiallyftfy
The ultimate conclusion to cheating in video games is literally just having the robot play them for you
Something is just wrong with their brains which allows them to derive pleasure from antisocial activity 🤷♀️
Botting just got a whole lot easier - now old bitcoin farmers can go back to currency farming in games. At least in game currency prices will drop.
