If English wasn’t your first language, maybe if you learned English later in life, were there any words that you had a really hard time learning how to pronounce? Do you think that had to do with the sounds made in your first language?

  • pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    Colonel.

    Less of how hard it is to actually pronounce, more like how hard it is to believe it’s pronounced that way.

      • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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        19 days ago

        This one’s actually funny to me. It’s a bit of a meme that francophones struggle with squirrel and anglophones struggle with écureuil, but I personally had no trouble with it. You just have to hear it once.

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          18 days ago

          My francophone wife practiced saying squirrel for like 7 years before she was able to get it kinda right, so that’s very impressive if true. It doesn’t help that in my accent, it’s pronounced as one syllable. Even good approximations of the pronunciation that I’ve heard by French speakers are usually done in two syllables.

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          Is it tricky? English is my first language and it doesn’t seem difficult to me, but I never gave it much thought. So fascinating.

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            19 days ago

            It only has a single vowel, which is an r-coloured vowel…which most languages don’t have. For that matter, many languages don’t even have our “r” sound, so colouring a vowel with “r” is incredibly hard when you don’t even have that consonant to colour with!

            Not to mention that after using that r-coloured vowel, you have a semi-syllabic L immediately afterwards. (Is squirrel one syllable or two? Depends on who you ask I guess!). As you may know, L and R are the same in some languages. And even if a language has both AND pronounces them the same ways as English (not necessarily common), they might not allow an L to follow an R! (Just like how we don’t allow R to follow an L)

            Oh, and which vowel are we colouring? “i” or the “short I”. This is a very rare vowel, following a third dimension (tenseness) that the majority of other vowels don’t use. Not common in other languages, either!

            So that’s the last two sounds.

            The first three is a consonant cluster containing another uncommon consonant (w). And even ignoring that, s and k can’t always be combined together in other languages.

            So literally every sound in the word “squirrel” has something foreign and rare about it to many languages immediately as you start to get past that “s” sound. Brutal.

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    18 days ago

    Don’t feel bad, everyone. English pronunciation IS difficult, though through tough thorough thought, you can do it!

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    “The”. The “th” in “the” is the only sound in English I can think of that doesn’t have a very similar counterpart in Dutch. The closest you could get using just Dutch phonemes would be “zuh” or “duh”.

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      18 days ago

      I think many, many native speakers would struggle with those too so if you’re at that level you’re doing really well. Congrats!

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          18 days ago

          I can pronounce it but I don’t think you have too much to worry about pal…I’ve come across that specific word about three times in my whole life.

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    18 days ago

    There are words I really hate struggle with…
    Whirl, macabre, dairy, faux, chique.

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    18 days ago

    I always pronounced “only” as “on-lie”. I heard other people say “only” and couldn’t understand what they meant.

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      19 days ago

      Queue is just the name of the letter “Q”.

      But it “kyoo” might not be an easy sound depending on your mother tongue

  • pedz@lemmy.ca
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    18 days ago

    Genuine. I still wonder if I pronounced it correctly every time I use the word.

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    I think I was just pronouncing everything wrong for the first several years I was speaking English because I learnt English from books and never heard most words out loud. But I don’t remember anything being physically difficult to pronounce in terms of emulating how it’s said when I first hear it pronounced “correctly”.