• Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    Note plenty FitGirl repacks are lossless; as in, she isn’t taking less important files out of the game, she’s compressing it better. 90GB→35GB seems accurate; you often see ~1/3 of the original size, like this. And it shows plenty game devs

    1. do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression.
    2. give no flying fucks about players, who might have really slow connections.

    And then those same developers get amazed at the fact FitGirl is so popular. “Maybe we’re doing something wrong? …nah.”

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      It’s more likely that the devs are not being given the time or resources to do this kind of thing properly. Their bosses are too concerned with what will save money and generate shareholder value.

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        Fair point. I guess it would be more accurate to say “development studios” (you know, the organisation… including the bloody boss) instead of “game devs”.

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        This implies fitgirl is doing it properly. Which it’s trade off faster download longer install times or vice versa.

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        It’s basic math for these executives, the cost of bandwidth is magnitudes less than than the cost to pay someone to reduce it. They do not care about the cost to gamers.

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      I wouldn’t really say that. The kind of extreme compression Fitgirl does comes with the tradeoff of really long decompression times. Depending on which games, nearly 45 minutes (with a 7800x3D)

      Some games lack compression but I would not want those long install times by default, if you have a speedy internet connection they usually take longer to install than to download. Don’t get me wrong, for people with really slow internet those repacks are a godsend but they are not “better” on every aspect.

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        Honestly I can’t remember the last time a fitgirl release took longer to install than an ‘official’ copy.

        And pretty much as long as I’ve had a computer it’s been “bottom of the barrel” hardware.

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      do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression

      I’ve installed one game from FitGirl so far. It took three hours to unpack while hammering all the cpu cores, failed, and required another three-hour go to install properly.

      So you’re saying that all games should install like this?

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        So you’re saying that all games should install like this?

        Given other people addressed the same point, but unlike you they aren’t disingenuously assuming words into my mouth, I think it’s pretty safe to block you as dead weight.

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          Wow, very mature.

          “Developers should do compression like FitGirl does.”

          “Oh no I didn’t mean developers should do compression like FitGirl does.”

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      No it’s making a choice. Faster decompress times. Considering a lot of their customers have fast speeds it doesn’t really matter.

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        Bingo. And this means they’re effectively choosing who their games are for. And then complaining the ones they didn’t choose decided to pirate it.

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          I’m curious, are there countries where fast internet is way too expensive but video games are priced well?

          Edit: I mean priced well on launch, btw, not on sale

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      The EA/Ubisoft/Rockstar servers are so shit and their games so large that it’s actually near impossible to download their games on a slow internet connection, because they would just timeout after 3~4 hours.

      Downloading a cracked, compressed FitGirl repack over P2P and just ignoring the crack was unironically the only viable way to legally enjoy the games I had purchased back when I had slow internet.

      The repacks are windows .exes, yet even work flawlessly via wine. FitGirl truly GOATed.

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      The downside of the compression is the install can take way longer than the download. But if you’re on a slower connection the smaller download would be a big benefit.

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    Yesterday I tried to mod persona 4 golden on Linux. After a couple hours of headaches and some help from the developer, I finally managed to fix the problem and launch persona aaaaand denuvo shut it down.

    Denuvo literally shut down my legal version of P4G because I used one too many versions of proton. This is why I support fitgirl

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      Yeah, Denuvo registers every version of Proton as a different computer. So when you cycle through a bunch of different versions, Denuvo sees you booting it on a bunch of different computers back-to-back. IIRC Denuvo’s ToS allows for 5 different computers to boot a game within 24 hours. So it locks you out for 24h, as an anti-account-sharing measure. It has hit the spotlight a few times recently, because of the Steam Deck users needing to cycle through Proton versions.

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      Same thing happened to me with Street fighter 6. I was just trying to get it to run and kept switching proton versions and it got locked.

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    Folks here are like “everyone uses it. Eventually all gamers realize it’s better”

    Me, having never even heard of this in my 30 years of gaming: 🫣

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    If you can afford it

    https://isthereanydeal.com/

    Might be a better option, or least send the devs some support while using repacks. It’s sort of like a thrift store when you find something you really wanted maybe a game you didn’t even know of, and it means a lot more because it feels like finding a treasure.

    I actually didn’t know that the whole point of fitgirl was for compression, I’ve been blessed with massive hard drives. I think I took my 4tb ssd for granted. Not everyone has even an extra $5 .

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      I actually didn’t know that the whole point of fitgirl was for compression

      The whole point of view of the article is about people from countries that can’t afford the modern AAA price, internet bandwidth… and even PC capable to run the game decently (AAA the full price always take in account hardware that runs on “Ultra settings”; not the customers running it at very low).

      As aside note, piracy isn’t even about piracy itself anymore: someone who buy an AAA videogame on “exclusivity store” (such as Epic)… soon or later will discover that’s easier to store a fitgirl copy of his purchase to run the same game seamelessly across all the PC in their household (good old: Install > Next > Next > Finish) … rather having set up those 2+3 launcher per PC.

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      The best option is piracy. Do not engage in capitalism where you can avoid it.

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        Excluding Indie devs, sure. Stardew Valley will always have my full support.

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    I used fit girl for a game I didn’t know if my first pc build would run a game I wanted to buy. It didn’t work, I upgraded my pc and tried it again and then it worked.

    I’m glad they are around now that I’m trying to learn about pc gaming.

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      I only use DODI when there is no Fitgirl release. DODI torrents are always behind spam/scam link gates and the installer is horrible. In the DODI installer to start it for some reason you have to press the up arrow or something. Just… why? It’s like he saw that feature on his phone lock screen and decided to add it without asking himself what purpose it serves. The installer is also totally broken if you have changed windows scaling so every time I want to use it I have to go into the properties and disable scaling.

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        Ah, alright alright

        DODI torrents are always behind spam/scam link gates

        There’s a bypass script for this and should be on the DB0 megathread list (or at least in the PiratedGames megathread).

        and the installer is horrible. In the DODI installer to start it for some reason you have to press the up arrow or something. Just… why?

        Honestly, I never found this to be an issue. But can understand it could be a bit annoying.

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    Piracy is the response when companies refuse to serve market needs.

    I mean, there will always be people trying to get something for free when they normally have no problem affording it or obtaining it personally. It’s why the Parasite Class continue to drive down wages while raising prices for that sweet labour-free profit margin, even though they already have obscene amounts of wealth. Their boundless greed demands they squeeze even more out of the Working Class whose labour is the source of all wealth.

    So yeah, there we’ll always be some people who will pirate purely for the fish.

    But in the end, any significant piracy is 100% the fault of those very companies that complain about it.

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      I am in the process of moving to pc from ps. I wont buy the same games again, it doesnt make sense to me. Where it is cheap and easy I have done but I feel I bought the right to buy them and also I hate some of the features with logins and always on connections.

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    Back in my day, we had RELOADED, Razor1911, DEViANCE! Haven’t pirated games in forever though, I mostly buy “indies” today and steam + gog facilitate that nicely.

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      I only pirate games that I wouldn’t mind playing but also hate the publisher, or the publisher makes the games annoying to play despite steams easy UI and setup.

      Games from EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar, etc I will pirate with no remorse and then place the launcher link in my steam library.

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    i’m surprised, i just thought if you couldn’t afford a game these days you waited till it was 90% off on steam

    I thought there was something like patient gamers who only played games a year after release or something like this but I can’t find it

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      That’s me, I have a MASSIVE wait-list on Isthereanydeal.com and buy most games at around $5, including triple A games, assuming I haven’t already gotten them for free from Epic, Amazon or Good Ole Games.

      However, if I know it’s NEVER going to go down or it’s from Nintendo, torrents all the way.

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      I used to, but steam is based in a banana republic where I don’t want to send a single avoidable cent anymore. I stopped buying anything from steam months ago. Haven’t gotten a new game since, but I will look into gog, who are based in Europe if I am not mistaken.

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      I was checking this year and most of the things I want from a few years ago are still at 50%. But I don’t have enough time to play everything so I won’t likely pirate new stuff even though I very much know how to do so safely.

      Hell, new games aren’t even competing with just each other- I’ve had a blast playing a lot of PS2 and PSP this year. When you don’t give in to hype and peer pressure, you’ve got near limitless options for entertainment.

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      Still is more than a dollar so would rather play first and pay later when I’m not having to go to the food bank.

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    I’ve had a lot less of a desire to pirate games after moving to Linux full time a few years ago. But FitGirl has been the one reliable place for public torrents, compaed to chancing it on the third Google Link or scrolling through the Russian CS-Rin-Rulette forum to find links.

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        It was 5-10 years ago, not too hard to find and a little before Google intentionally made things harder to find. I’ve used many public and private trackers, but it’s just that these days my interest in movies has disappeared almost completely, and I’m happy with most of the games I have.

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      I’ve never had a single problem with cs-rin and I’d be surprised if the average person ever would.

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    Wait fitgirl is actually a female? Been using those repacks for a very long time. A legend among the scene.

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      Yep, she was super happy when another girl came upon the scene, Empress. They collabed on a big release one time and I remember her saying “Girl power!”, then not long after Empress had a big ego trip and falling out with the repackers.

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    Maybe fitgirl is the bbw porn actress named fitsidney or fitsid for short.

    Both are girls.

    One fucks on camera. One repackage games. Same thing probably.

    Think about it.

    Edit: I’m doing a thorough and deep investigation of her videos for any clues and I’ll report back on any findings.

    Edit2: the results are inconclusive and I’ll need to perform more research. It’s worth mentioning that fitsid is adorable and very enthusiastic in what she does, and is also kind of adorable much like fitgirl’s photo of Amelie. But, like, with cum involved.

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      For science to be accurate we need a peer-review, we need all hands on deck for this one.