• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The census is a tallying of the people that live in the country. Legal or not, immigrants do live here and should be counted. This argument is dumb on so many levels.

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      They’ve been trying to normalize the idea that it only counts citizens for a couple of decades now.

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        It certainly is strange that the “slavery wasn’t that bad” party is against non citizens being counted now.

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          I’m not saying right or wrong, but it could impact who gets elected. Illegal immigrants don’t need to vote directly to impact elections due to the electoral college.

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            Too fucking bad for the whiners because the Constitution straight up doesn’t care. Probably because they’d have thought we were being weird fuckheads on border control.

            All voting rights addressed by the Constitution are amendments prohibiting various forms of discrimination. You don’t even technically have to be a citizen to vote per Constitutional law, that’s just a restriction agreed upon by all state laws.

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              Fundamentally, I’m not sure why being a citizen, or even legal status, should matter when it comes to voting. When you consider that a US citizen can move to a new state/local jurisdiction and immediately vote in those elections with just proof of residency in that jurisdiction, then it seems like the proof of residency is what’s really important in determining whether you can vote in a given election.

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            Yeah, I feel like you could easily I clude numbers for citizen and non-citizen. I don’t think non-citizen should affect the number of electorates. I do think it’s an important consideration for that state’s elected officials, because the people do exist.

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    Why don’t these idiots ever suffer any consequences for being so stupid and/or deceptive? Probably because most people are also kind of stupid and dishonest.

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    Ever notice how everything they accuse the Democrats of, they’re either doing themselves already or about to start doing?

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        It’s not a big deal, because the other side is doing it! It’s just how things work!

        They are legitimizing their actions ahead of time to minimize the impact when the public hears about it. I hate how performative and manipulative it is.

        This administration has every single red flag of an abusive partner. Their entire play is gaslighting, beating us and telling us it’s our fault. “We don’t want to deploy paramilitary forces, but you’ve left me no choice with how you’ve been behaving, letting illegals gasp eat and be happy.”

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    When you join an university because your father is rich, but you have no idea what any of the subjects are.

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    Also Census is suppose to count EVERY one in the states since when put in law some people weren’t citizens. Also Trump tried to do average citizens question on the Census and it got struck down at the Supreme Court

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    They’re winning and taking us all down with them, but it’s never enough for these assholes (assuming you take what he says at face value and that it’s not just a distraction and/or deflection).

    The 2020 census already favored red states. Texas, Florida, Montana(!) and North Carolina gained a combined 5 seats, while West Virginia lost 1. On the other side, Colorado and Oregon gained 1 seat each, while New York, California, and Illinois lost 1 seat each. So red states are +4 net, blue states are -1 net. The others are accounted for in the swing states: Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania lost 1 each for a combined -3 net.

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    You would think if the immigration hot bed of California were boosting the numbers, we wouldn’t have lost two seats in the 2020 sentences.

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    I hear Americans bag out newsom he’s the only force standing against these idiots.