I enjoy PeerTube for what it is. But we have to talk about how PeerTube is I would say the one open source app that is getting the least amount of new users
So wanted to bring up some points on how we can improve it in some ways:
- It is too complex with not enough up to date guides and videos on how to set it up for most people
- Need new open source frontend client mobile apps to make it simpler to sign up, sign in, & watch videos/channels on it
- The website for sign up is not very user-friendly and like a semi-maze for people who are new
Anything else you would like to add or say about PeerTube in general?
It’s a phenomenal project and backend will of course stay the same but it needs a better pipeline of people and creators to it
Also check out post by another person below mine about Keep Android Open
Here’s the contributing section of their git.
Thanks for the link. I’ll see how I can add on
Ive been running my own instance for just over a year now, mostly to mirror youtube channels i like and for my own live streaming. I also try to upload the occasional full movie just because whos gonna stop me.
I think uploading content is what will help the most. Its really easy to setup a syncronized channel connected to youtube, anyone can do it for any channel they want. If everyone just setup a sync for 1 or 2 of their favorite yt channels it would make peoples complaints of nothing being available on peertube go away. Dont worry about subs or views right now, just focus on adding content so its available when the users do come.
Youtube gets worse all the time, the other corporate for profit alternatives all suck. If we can just have content waiting for people, esp content they are already familiar with from yt (but without ads) the users will evenrually star to stick around and grow more.
Oooo can you make a guide on how to do that? I would love to mirror youtube channels I watch
That too content is definitely a big thing that it needs. Kinda hard to make content for it if people such a tough time setting it up in first place though
This page has a pretty good video tutorial: https://fedihost.co/blog/slug/automatically-syncing-youtube-to-peertube
The official documentation is a bit more short and to the point: https://docs.joinpeertube.org/use/channel-sync
But did you ask creators if you could mirror their channels? Because if you didn’t, you’re just robbing them of some of their revenue.
I understand the need to have more content on Youtube, but I don’t think we should steal it.
I easily found almost enough Linux channels, but I can’t find basketball or videogames reviews channels.
I think we’ll get more content if one day you get the ability to show creators we’re supporting them through Patreon or something else.
Im not taking any revenue by mirroring channels, video and channel descriptions always include links to Patreon or whatever the original creators have for donations. Its no different from watching on invidius or revanced, except that google isnt hosting the content, i am.
Youtube is the the one robbing creators by giving them fractions of a cent for every dollar they make in ad-revenue and using their power to control what content can and cant earn revenue.
If a creator asked me to stop i would but i dont see that happening when its literally just my own private archive that might get maybe a dozen views on a good day.
Was thinking you were doing something like that and going to do the same. Donating to creators I watch either way too
No I would ask them if I can. Also, be a donater as well
My bad forgot to mention that
I love Peertube, but I remember that finding an instance wasn’t so easy.
Still I wanted to try it, so I was ready to go through some difficulties, but most people would just give up.
IMO asking the general public used to point & click simplicity is definitely a problem. Also I assume the lack of advertising is why creators don’t use it much either. They like getting free sponsored goodies to advertise to their audience.
For creators, wich want to monitize their content, PeerTube isn’t an option. The alternatives for music is Bandcamp and for all other Odysee, there they can create incomings with their content. PeerTube is nice for upload and host videos and same images in Pixelfed, both federated but only this.
They can’t monetize directly, but they can still do Patreon and sponsored ad reads. Maybe this already exists, but we could make it common to have donation wallets linked on videos, so you can still get tips too.
It’s just the ad revenue we can’t do
Tidal and Quboz as well for music. I get what you mean though I’ll give Odysee a go too
The main issue is that there are not enough users and not enough creators. Also, instance space is often limited.
I sometimes take part in a German ttrpg streaming group and I thought about convincing them to also upload to peertube but most instances that are focused on that topic simply don’t interested in hosting 300+ new videos that are each 3h+.
Apart from that platforms like twitch “guarantee” a small revenue stream and YouTube a large audience. PeerTube is harder to sell both in regards of outreach and revenue. However, I think if you are producing for the English market PeerTube can be very interesting revenue wise as some PeerTube creators report that they get more donations per viewer than on other platforms.
That is true and fully agree would be good for more of them to use Liberapay as well. I’ll add on though the pipeline to get users and creators in is difficult. Another commenter mentioned how their experience was and it is mostly similar to mine. I’m used to federation more so than others but the process makes it harder to get people in in the first place
That’s all nice and good but I think it needs mainstream creators to get on board and start publishing there. Though, since there is no financial incentive on PeerTube it won’t work.
I’m wondering would integrating with donation platforms help. Can be normal domains or some system which helps instance hosts too. I have sorta “top up and donate to content author” system in mind.
They could integrate with Liberapay if they do donation of any kind.
I tryed to use peertube, but I wanted to follow an account and I wasn’t able to do it in my instance, so I moved to another and in that one I wasnt able to upload videos and then 1 month after my account was deleted because I did nothing and problems like this over and over, ignoring how to just search a video or specific chanel that is not of your own instance is really difficult. Is not a comfy experience really.
Have no idea if they will see this by @ing this way but they definitely need to see it is a difficult experience even for people used to federation
Maybe you can contact them on Mastodon and other ways as well. I’m doing the same
@peertubecreator@lemmy.ml @peertube@framapiaf.org @peertube@mastodon.uno
I still haven’t managed to get in, mostly because I don’t know how to find an instance, or what I should be looking for to choose an instance.
I think I would like an Australia based instance, but I can’t find any way to filter or search for that.
I’ve had one person recommend peertube.wtf to me, but I still don’t know what would make it better than any other instance.
Their website directed me to a gore instance.
[Homer Simpson disappearing back into the bushes]
The big problem with Peertube is that most content creators cannot monetise their videos and for that reason they do not use or report on Peertube. The most contradictory thing of all is that most “Linuxtubers” do not do so either, for the same reason.
It took a while for me to figure out how to sign up for a peertube instance and I’ve still barely been able to log into it.
I’m not a fan of how YouTube videos are mirrored on peertube. It feels like freebooting.
You get linked to a video on the fediverse and you like the video and want to know more. When you look at the description you see abundant evidence the description was copied from YouTube, but that’s fine. You decide let’s go to YouTube to give them views so they can continue making videos but there are no links to the source material.
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