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    Anybody going there to test “how bad it is” is giving them traffic, which they can use to brag about its success. Personally, I’d rather completely ignore it and disregard whoever mention it one day as a source, which will never happen hopefuly.

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      nah most of the time he just overpromises… rarely has he delivered anything at all, and when he does it’s such a clusterfuck that the word underdeliver feels super generous.

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      Not really.

      Remember that Elmo just lies his ass off almost all the time.

      Over promises and under delivery are such extreme understatements with him, almost everything bhe says is just pure imaginary bullshit

      Lying his ass off literally is the only thing he does well, it made Tesla stocks balloon to being overvalued somewhere in 10-100 times their actual value

      Remember hyperloop, that project that even high schoolers could identify as absolutely dumb? Billions and billions in investment money has been wasted on absolute bullshit that will never work.

      But what about SpaceX, I hear you type?

      Remember how we’d land on Mars in 2018, now 7-8 years ago? Yeah, Elmo is currently at about 1% of that particular promise. Again, it’s not under delivery, it’s just actual plain bullshit

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        Speaking of SpaceX, ISRO was able to come up with a design of a Reusable-launch vehicle in half the price & did it way before them

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        Hyperloop, Neuralink, Tesla Semi, FSD, Mars lander, Roadster, Boring company…But we sent Elizabeth Holmes to jail.

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    He also gave the example of a German Wiki community member who wrote a program to verify the ISBN numbers of books cited, and was able to trace notable mistakes to one person. That person ultimately confessed they had used ChatGPT to find citations for text references and the LLM “just very happily makes up books for you,” Wales said.

    Well this won’t be a problem with Grokipedia, because it only uses sources that are available online as pure text (I’m pretty sure not even PDFs are used by it).

    Wales thinks the public and the media often give Wikipedia too much credit. In its early days, he says, the site was never as bad as the jokes made about it. But now, he says, “We are not as good as they think we are. Of course, we are a lot better than we used to be, but there is still so much work to do.”

    Amen, it’s nice to see the level-headedness.

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    It’s been fun watching Elon go from space Jesus to shorthand for any billionaire vanity project that will amount to nothing.

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      Anyone who knew much about space knew that was nonsense from the start, as colonizing a subantarctic volcano is literally more practical than colonizing Mars.

      And that’s assuming paradigm shifts in spaceflight. Turns out, they did not materialize at all. With SABRE air-breathing engines and Virgin-style stratolaunches dead, things actually went way worse than I expected years ago.

      Don’t get me wrong. SpaceX is great, Starship is cool, research in space is awesome. But ever since I’ve first read Musk’s public thoughts, he struck me as ‘not scientifically grounded,’ and I wondered how that incongruity would shake out.


      TL;DR: Truth never mattered, and it still doesn’t :(

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    Jimmy Wales: Libertarian that ended up creating perhaps the most successful collectivist project of all time.

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      Reading his Wiki page, he does sound rather reasonable. Support for Occupy Wallstreet, running as a UK Labour candidate, openly calling not to elect Trump and also calling the US Libertarian Party “lunatics”.

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        British libertarians get a pass on account of living in a monarchy but if you want to know why Labour’s shitting the bed, well, they let a right wing libertarian run as Labour.

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    How long until AI models start training off Grokipedia, and we have the biggest game of hallucination telephone?

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    Musk is just Nazi-washing what he stole from Wikipedia, he doesn’t have the base of volunteers and employees to maintain his latest toy. A year from now, it will be gone and forgotten, and we’ll all be shouting at each other to go vote.

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      One key difference: Conservapedia was young earth creationist, Grok is not. That amount of difference unfortunately enough to convince a lot of average Joes of credibility.

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          Let’s hope this time it’ll be like that, and not like Gamergate, when far-right conservatives convinced a generation worth of gamers that they’re not for-censorship, because they missed the times of calling blacks the N-word.

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      Not to sure about the latter part.

      Elmo will be bankrupt in not too much time but for the moment he has pockets so deep he single handedly could fund wikipedia for the next millenia. For as long as he isn’t bankrupt and alive, that turd will be around

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    Ultimately, this could highlight the incredibly high value of wikipedia as a common ressource, and might lead to better things there.

    Maybe.

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    It’s not about making something useful. He and a few others are cloning everything any of their cult might use to further fence them in from external information and entertainment.

    They’re having a harder time in entertainment, because artists tend to be more liberal, but they’re gaining ground there, too. After a certain point, they’ll just radically censor everything else.

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      This is what scares me. The fact that they are doing it at all. It’s providing more spaces for people to shut themselves in completely with the information they want. These fucking desperate bigots will never be satisfied until the entire world reflects their bigoted ass beliefs, but since that will never happen they will fight a civil war for Elon out of sheer ignorant self obsession, instead

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      well, the website only has one button, that redirects to the actions of Grokipedia with the options to buy or sell some.

      I guess you have to interact with their actions to use the thing?