this is a perfect example of just because it’s well known doesn’t make it fact.
now that there is evidence, it’s a fact.
Republicans are a party of Nazis.
The question remains: What are the real americans going to do about it?
It’s not going to get better by itself, and the rest of the world can’t just come over and fix it.
They have to be run out town and any that have acted on their murderous desires need to be tried for their crimes. It makes more sense why USAID was shut down though. These people are part of a death cult and the conspiracy theories are just an attempt to sanitize the murderous plans to gullible people.
a third of Americans voted for this and another third couldn’t be assed to stop it. this is what “real Americans” want
These are the real americans…
You think this isn’t happening in the rest of the world?
mexico? peru? canada?
… were you guys not watching us politics this entire time? why are yall surprised about this group chat?
One of these ubermensch
14 or 40.
Real ‘Jared of Subway’ vibes there buddy.
I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn’t pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They’re NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.
These are just 4chan trolls who
maturedgot older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don’t believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects
That’s what these pictures are though, they’re just in suits. I find the fact that they’re all in suits hilarious. Dude is what, 23 and has the same build that 79 year old Trump has.
You’re not thinking like a rightoid and that’s probably a good thing.
Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.
It’s ironic that the greatest achievements of the white “race” (race in quotes since it’s not a real thing) have been in the realm of technology, yet the most advanced thing these inbred fucks have ever achieved is mounting big flags in the backs of their trucks.
Know what you’re getting at and you seem to address this but I wouldn’t attribute any achievement to the white race. That feeds into the Nazi narrative. Every achievement is an adaptation of or a step forward from ancient human wisdom. The concept of zero, which is foundational to all modern mathematics and technology, was derived from the spiritual and philosophical practices of people in South Asia. The precursors of the printing press were developed by people in China partly due to the rapid expansion of Buddhism creating a high demand for sutras.
Many of the mathematic “developments” of Fibonacci, for example, were already known in the Arabian peninsula, after having been transferred from South Asia and further developed. He learned Arabic in order to being them to the West. The infinite series for trigonometric functions (precursors to calculus) were also known in South Asia and the Arab peninsula before being ?discovered independently in Europe (its unknown if this knowledge transferred).
Finally I’ll end with the fact that both the industrial revolution and enlightenment occurred on the back of colonial exploitation. It was the relative luxury and advatantage of having people working the fields in a distant nation that allowed for the technological development that led to the industrial revolution in the west. It was the relative luxury, at the cost of back breaking labor in the colonies, that allowed for people to meet in salons and cafes and discuss/propogate enlightenment values. There’s some debate that enlightenment values may have developed in part due to contact with Indigineous people in the Americas since precivilization cultures are inherently more egalitarian and democratic (as communal interdependence is absolutely crucial to survival).
My larger point is that these are human / global achivements. The idea that no attribution can be given to those who paid for them in their blood is an imperialist one. And the last thing we want to do is empower fascists / imperialists.
You’ve already acknowledged so just expanding on your point!
Yeah, I agree with everything you’ve said. I mainly just wanted to make fun of that flag-in-truck bullshit.
The very notion that someone would take some kind of credit for technological advancement because they share a similar skin color with a random visionary makes me want to communicate non-verbally with these douche bags in a very forceful way.
If you catch my drift.
a random visionary
And most of them were Scots who aren’t even really human!
someone needs to teach him how to button a blazer ffs
Not shown, but I would bet my 401k that his pants are way too long.
He said “Missouri don’t like f**s.”
When I was growing up and people were referred to as “f***y” for how they looked, he would have been called that.
Fucked that they don’t even have to exaggerate. The literal quotes are so absurdly vile that they can’t be outdone.
They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes
For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.
“I love Hitler,” Republicans,
probablyactuallyAre those actual leaked quotes on the right?? Good lord!!
In case you haven’t seen the report,
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
Thank you.
I’m stunned.
The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.
I’m stunned.
I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity
My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.
Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.
So what is his go-to response?
Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.
If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.
That sounds like a really good strategy, I like it. Also he must be a good teacher to be respected like that. Thank you both for being the good guys.
None of them were kids, which is sad, but I get your point. If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/republican-hitler-group-chat-nazi-politico/
None of them were kids
They all were at some point.
If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.
Glad I was homeschooled then
YMMV. It’s more you should be grateful you didn’t have racist parents.
Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.
No Kings this Saturday! Show up!
So that’s how I find out.
The OG reporting, for others like me.
But why are the nazis hiding the Epstein files?
Because the Nazis are also pedophiles.
Please remember, this is the republican party, the party that has fought to lower the age of consent across the nation for decades. This is entirely on brand for what we’ve seen them fight for in public, and if you’re aware of the 50-60 plus pages of Republican sex pests, completely unsurprising.
It says so much about the Republican Party that they’re defending these limpdick fifth-graders instead of saying: “You know what? We don’t like these pathetic little shit-stains either.”
The Young Republicans weren’t lying when they said calling their opposition candidates white supremacists might work against them.
You should also be aware that the group accepts people up to age 40.
So the framing that these are children or teens is also misleading.
We all knew.
From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
I’m getting so fucking tired of libs’ satisfaction with hypocrisy. We already knew these people were Nazis, they’ve always fucking been Nazis. They say they aren’t because gaslighting is a fascist tactic and open support of Nazism doesn’t ring with racist middle class people who only have their internalized values to run on. Whenever chuds are caught lying there’s thousands of lib gotcha posts like it’s a victory.
It’s not a “victory”, it’s refusing to let this shit slide unspoken
Cool, what about the past three decades? Libs have allowed fascists into power as they always do and I’ve lived through three decades of them only talking. Reveling in hypocrisy is too late and too satisfying to people who don’t feel genuinely threatened.
So yeah, i’m not american but i gotta tell you “the libs allow this! The libs allowed that!!” Is a total whingeing scapegoat attempt.
You literally vote in every single rep on multiple levels in the US. As in you, the people. You vote from councilmembers all the way up to congress members. And trying to blame a single political party for the people you literally vote into power is big ol’ pile of shite.
You have a vote. You have more than two parties. But you always blame just one set of politics when your shit goes sideways. What the hell is up with that.
Who the fuck are you talking to rn? I’m not in the US.
edit: On top of that, it’s hilarious to have yet another person fail to understand what liberalism is. Did I say, “Democratic Party of the USA”? Liberalism is not a specific group of politicians in one country, it is also not specific parties who call themselves liberals, it is a specific ideology organized around individualism and capital that emerged through settler colonialism. Shut the FUUUUUUCK up about shit you don’t know about like how self-righteous. Go proselytize on street corners if you’re so desperate.
Oh sweetie.
Liberalism and liberal parties are very very different things across the world. One example is the liberal party in Australia, who are infamously right wing. Liberalism meaning the left as opposed to the right is absolutely a US idea.
So if you don’t want people thinking you’re in the US, maybe don’t use their terminology and specific political constructs.
Pompous. THAT’S STILL LIBERALISM YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER.
AI levels of incoherence there but this site is small enough and your post history is varied enough that I believe this is truly just an igorant and satisfied person.
Have you considered once in your entire bubble-wrapped life that the language you have been given to understand politics purposefully made you unable to interpret – and therefore criticize – the policies and philosophies in the systems of power around you? These are all liberal parties. Liberalism is not when you say the rainbow capitalism or let the raciazlied people bomb kids too, though they certainly seek to appropriate ideas of social justice and civil progress. It is a durable and dominant ideology with individualism and capitalism as its primary organizing principles. Morality is written around the imperatives of infinite growth, wealth accumulation (extraction), and individual human bodies rather than human relationalities to each other and the land/spaces they exist in. “Right wing” or “left wing” is relevant only in the purposefully disarming rhetoric adopted in settler-colonial states to obfuscate that dominance. When people correctly identify that liberals, as in liberalism not as in the colloquial term for “not a Republican Party supporter,” do not challenge fascism, they are identifying that the material interests of liberals does not conflict with the overt racism and authoritarianism of fascists. Australia is a country dominated by liberalism in the same way the US, and Canada are all dominated by liberalism as these are all eurosettler countries that hold individualism and capitalism as the highest principle in their social and political systems.
Racism is fundamental to liberalism as capitalism depends on an exploitable class of people and race allows for a naturalized and immutable justification for exploitation of particular groups. Queerphobia is fundamental to liberalism as the hierarchy which is necessary to facilitate exploitation must control how people reproduce culturally as well as physically. Civil rights for racialized and queer people in these systems is articulated through the legal right to access capital both as a way to protect this imperative from violent challenges and redirect the threat these movements pose into the legal framework of the state to better control them.
“Sweetie,” you have to fucking think about what these people and systems actually do and why. **You do not know what you are fucking talking about. ** When I say liberals are fucking insufferable because they never know what they’re talking about and what the stakes are in the rise of fascism, I’m talking about you. I do not care what you think you subscribe to, because you’ve said as explicitly as possible that you do not care to know what you believe in.
I will not pay attention to your next comment, I won’t even read it. I post this only in the hopes that you aren’t some piece of shit who will never learn and in case there are other libs who may come across this comment thread and have their own internalized values challenged for once.
Jesus christ dude. Touch grass.
You can’t say the N-word.
It’s their word
no, they can’t say it. it’s not pronounced nucular
This is just what Lee Atwater said openly in the 80s.
Which group chat was this? Also, genuinely curious why “liberal” is used to insult right wingers. I’ve always heard it used for left wing stuff
Because the technical definition of ‘liberal’ is somebody who has buy in to the idealogy of liberalism1. According to the original left vs. right wing of the French National Assembly “liberals” were left wing and “conservatives”, aka monarchists, were right wing.
That was nearly 250 years ago.
In the modern era where monarchies are mostly extinct the way that an individual achieves the modern equivalent of the “divine right of kings” is via the “right to private property”. So both it and conservatism are fighting to fill the niche that once held the monarchists, the fight is whether it should be wealthy corporations or a religious monarchy that fills it. It should go without saying that these are both extremely far right positions.
1 also worth reading a bit about the technical definition/understandings of neoliberalism
I don’t know the specific context you’re looking at but when liberal is used on Lemmy as a derogatory it’s generally directed at those affiliated with, say, the Democratic party (of America). ITT some comments are drily pointing out that this isn’t a good “gotcha” comic because it is objectively obvious what the right’s agenda has been this whole time, to the point that calling it out is essentially an empty gesture.
The way I interpret it, it’s like when Homophobes call each other f***ts. Homphobes hate being called gay slurs. So essentially the same people don’t like being called gay slurs or Liberal.
Liberal is sort of two separate things - a brand adopted by usually a party that markets itself as socially progressive and a philosophy of property forward law that creates a punch out of individual rights to citizens (and to a much lesser extent subgroups) to things like freedom of movement, freedom from unlawful seizure of property, freedom of expression and “style of life”.
If you have existed on the outside of the left wing you might only be familiar with the brand aspect. The criticism of the wider left in general of these “Liberal” branded parties is that they are often performative in their progressive nature. The brand is just marketing.
The hotbutton discussion however inside the wider left in regards to the political philosophy of Libralism is that both the Republicans and Democrats are by technical definition Liberals and that base philosophy has within it the political prerogative of constantly upholding protections on keeping the absurd aggregation of wealth in private firms (something Libralism at it’s core is designed to do). A large number of different leftist philosophies see this as a core problem. Therefore in leftist spaces self identifying Liberals are usually flagged as dupes of a branded center-right party - not as progressives who support social causes of wider acceptance.
Libralism as a philosophy is kind of the air we breathe. It’s not left nor right. It creates a body of individual rights but Capitalism is used as a measure of what constitutes personal autonomy. Someone dying from a lack of success is acceptable because at it’s core Liberalism is designed to coerce (most) people to perform perpetual labour in return for protection inside the system. The system creates classes of people who are citizens who are protected and by doing so it creates exceptions to citizenhood (like prisoners, refugees, immigrants or indigenous peoples) who can be exploited.
Most Democracies are philosophically a sort of blended patchwork of Liberalism and Socialism with some other stuff mixed in. The two are either compatible or opposing depending on which school of Socialism you are talking about.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I was raised very conservative, migrated libratarian, and am slowly leaning more libertarian socially but centrist economically. Where I’m from “Liberal” is sort of an insult for the far left so it’s weird to see it used within the left. I’ve never seen that before.
Yeah “Liberal” as an insult from a Conservative from the leftist perspective is very funny and also sad. Conservatives often utilize the wrong terms for things which muddy the waters and make it harder for their flock to swap sides because messing around with diction makes following leftist discussion impossible if you have an understanding of the terms gleaned from a non-academic source.
Take the term “neo-liberal” the right uses it in its most literal translation to mean “new liberal” and uses it to evoke the far end of the progressive spectrum of the left.
In actuality the term was coined in the Reagan/Thatcher era to mean the sort of generally conservative policy of privatizing swaths of government services entirely, defunding government social programs, removing regulations/ depowering regulatory bodies and practicing so called “trickle down economics” policies. The philosophical term is frozen in time just the same way terms like “neolithic” or “neoclassical art” is. Republicans are literally more Neo-Liberal than the Democrats (who are sort of more passively status quo preserving liberal. Neo-liberal mostly by virtue of inaction. )
Linguistically the well is very poisoned. The left wing could try adopting new terms but the right wing is faster to disseminate their counter to that by just creating new bastardized meanings of the terms because the right has a more unified media structure. The left is fractured. It deals often with trying new things rather than preserving status quo which means it exists in a lot of subgroups.
