It's a crying shame.
  • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1571·
    7 days ago

    So, the champion of cleaning your room :

    • Is addicted to drugs
    • Can’t keep a room tidy for shit.

    Amazing.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    653·
    7 days ago

    I don’t like the man, he seriously sucks, but he needs an official wellness check. He’s clearly becoming increasingly mentally disabled and things like this keep happening in his daughter’s custody.

    That’s not a spiritual attack, it’s mold induced pneumonia in a man with brain damage. He could easily be less capable of resisting the mold. Why the fuck was a man with brain damage trying to clean a moldy room without assistance‽

    Like, seriously for all I hate the man I really get no joy from this, I don’t want him taken away as punishment or anything, I’m mostly concerned for him. I don’t think that the Peterson of a decade ago would be putting the Peterson of today in these positions.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      6 days ago

      He absolutely would if he thought he belonged to one of the out-groups to be persecuted. This fucker has shown no empathy towards others and has played a big part in the rise of fascism we’re seeing today. He deserves no pity.

      • upsidedown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1321·
        6 days ago

        Everyone deserves some pity. If you don’t think so then you really aren’t a good person either.

        • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
          16·
          6 days ago

          everyone deserves some pity at some point, yes

          Peterson has used his up, and he no longer deserves any

        • F_State@midwest.socialEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          It’s the exception that proves the rule so there are a couple people who should remain without pity but Peterson isn’t the one in my book.

    • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      6 days ago

      I don’t like the man, he seriously sucks, but he needs an official wellness check

      An American style wellness check

    • volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      81·
      6 days ago

      Damn the replies to your comment are wild.

      I agree with everything you say. I hate this man but I am not as petty as to think this is funny or that he should die.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
      31·
      6 days ago

      That’s not a spiritual attack, it’s mold induced pneumonia in a man with brain damage. He could easily be less capable of resisting the mold. Why the fuck was a man with brain damage trying to clean a moldy room without assistance‽

      The number of old white men with brain infections influencing government is too damn high.

    • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
      13·
      6 days ago

      It’s genuinely possibly an experiment or poisoning by Russia. He was in Russia for a month or so in a coma to get off benzos. It could also be his sunstance use flaring up. I do not really believe the mold story from the daughter (who is very creepy).

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        Hanlon’s razor here: he went looking for any doctors who would do the procedure he wanted and couldn’t get it in north America or any of Europe west of Russia. That indicates that it’s stupidly dangerous without any foul play

        • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
          13·
          6 days ago

          Do you really believe that? That he couldn’t find ANY doctors to do it except Russia? Or is that just a convenient excuse to go to Russia?

          Further, medical malpractice IS foul play.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
      35·
      7 days ago

      I remember hearing of him about a decade ago and the few times I heard him he was coherent and made some reasonable arguments

      Since over 5 years ago he went off a cliff

  • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
    391·
    6 days ago

    Isn’t it amazing this asshole got rich by spewing BS focused on “alpha males” and a full on “macho” attitude, yet they avoid any personal responsibility like it’s acid.

    It isn’t the many drugs this guys has taken all his life… nooooooo… it’s a spiritual attack from someone else

    • P1k1e@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      6 days ago

      I think it’s more amazing that anyone could take “alpha male” advice from a guy who’s this much of a wimp

  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    411·
    7 days ago

    as well as a spate of neurological issues that have apparently left him unable to regulate his emotions.

    How can they even tell? He is just like that.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      7 days ago

      He wasn’t like that before the coma that he went to Russia to get induced to get off benzos. A decade ago he was just an old man who cried “authoritarianism” every time he was told he couldn’t do something.

  • bradv@lemmy.caEnglish
    302·
    7 days ago

    Regardless of whether it’s the mold, the diet, a spiritual crisis, or good old-fashioned demonic assault, we can only hope Peterson recovers. Sure, I don’t agree with him about anything, but this weepy, deranged, overemotional basketcase does more to discredit conservative thinking than an army of well-meaning social justice warriors, so I can only wish him a long life.

    • Draces@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      7 days ago

      Dude is responsible for indoctrinating so many desperate kids that just needed any kind of direction. He is not discrediting conservative thinking. Is this author living under a rock?

      • ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        14·
        5 days ago

        I really do think there’s a very definite before and after. At one point, he seemed to figure out exactly the cadence and wording that young men especially wanted out of a wisdom-dispensing fatherly figure. He got a lot of mileage out of whining about that one Canadian law proposal, at a time when transgendery things were (for better or for worse) less understood by most people. So even if you were sympathetic to them, there was a chance that what he was describing would raise your eyebrow. In my case I didn’t think I had anything against them, but he painted this picture of a law that could be easily abused, even if it was ostensibly in good faith. And he was careful not to comment on whether or not he thought it was one. Didn’t matter that the narrative he was peddling was pretty much fiction in the first place.

        And then COVID broke his brain, and he very suddenly became terrible at hiding his power level. Part of his audience just knew him as that guy who wrote that book, but after selling increasingly political books titled “All you need to do to live (part 4, last one)” and “All you need to do to live (part 5, okay no this is the last one I promise.final)” that illusion also fell apart.

        Right now most of the people who looked up to him at the time, even those who both still are (and even those who acknowledge) that they are right wing, think he’s lost the plot.

        It’s not a great reassurance that those who let go of him may still have probably been swayed net-rightward by his stuff. But his spiral and widespread perception as a laughing stock, and as a clear example of lack of moral integrity on the right, is also a major piece of what he represents now. His red crying mug in his messy room has become a meme with a life of own. This is what he really is: a pompous, pontificating, fragile prick who can’t even use the good parts of his advice for his own sake. Even if it’s as simple as touching grass and cleaning up your shit.

        I guess I’m technically an ex-follower of his.

        At one point in my life, during his rise, I had a vaguely positive view of him, after he was presented as a guest on what was definitely not a conservative podcast (great moves Ethan, proud of you!). I even bought his book. I viewed myself squarely as an open minded liberal person, and saw him as just a moderate. Coming from a socially conservative part of the world, no alarm bells rang for me. But after continued learning, and meeting new people, I was able to rebuild a much more robust and morally sound view of the world and how it works. I recognized how caustic a lot of my beliefs, many that he confirmed/reinforced, actually are.

        One of the few things I miss from the old site is /r/ExLobster, it was so enlightening to see how many others went through the same process I did with this guy. It also took the edge off the embarrassment I felt about falling into his world in the first place. I was just vulnerable to his shit at that point in my life, it was literally designed for people in my situation, and there’s no shame in picking yourself up and moving forward. And then COVID happened, in parallel with a multidimensional meltdown in my country, and while he put himself in a coma and cooked his brain, I was out there, supporting the medical system, doing charitable work and then mutual aid work, and I came out the other side with a radically new and solid foundation for my beliefs. A model of how society should run that ran counter to a lot of what he preached as common sense.

        But you know what was the tipping point for me? It’s a very silly little thing I saw, and I don’t recall particularly when. Probably while I was still a bit in it. I always used to intentionally avoid his subreddit because I thought I was an enlightened centrist (finding the good in his work but not uncritically engaging with it) who was above those weird right wingers who dominated that community. But I opened it on a whim once. And someone was asking about “Jordan-Peterson ideology compatible Anime”. Not sure what the exact words were. But there you go. Sometimes you need to see a word salad like that to see how ridiculous the company you’re keeping actually is.

        I think he’s a fascinating case study of the grift economy. I genuinely think that if he was truly the conservalib old-soul psychology professor with an interest in the way Christian theology and vague folktale cosmology influence modern worldviews and narratives, he would definitely be someone I’d pay attention to. At least for his areas of expertise. I still yearn for someone like that to exist. Shitheads should not monopolize any topic.

        But we know now that he was always mad as a hatter, that he was trying to get famous a decade before he actually did, and that his actual beliefs don’t deserve an iota of public recognition. That the ways he couched them are the sum total of what he was bringing to the table.

        The mythological Jordan Peterson isn’t necessarily a bad guy, the original character, as played in like 2016. The actual one is a pathetic, and now failed cult of personality grifter, an enabler of great evil.

        I hope he feels a fraction of the pain he has caused before he kicks it.

        Edit: changed some things to be less winding.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    181·
    6 days ago

    I never wanted him to get sick. I just wanted him to stop forcing his opinions on the public. Can’t he just holler at the TV like most older folks?

    • Fedizen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      6 days ago

      Legitimately. After seeing the vultures trying to put on Charlie Kirk’s skinsuit it seems like the way to rise up in the grifting ranks is to kill the current grifter and take their place.

      Edit: I don’t think people state enough that charlie kirk had hundreds of millions of dollars at age 31. He was well on his way to retiring as a billionaire. The guy was literally a sellout and now there’s at least a dozen grifters lining up to get at the billionaire money-faucets he had.

  • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    7 days ago

    Given that this guy wrote about a dream he had wherein his grandmother grabbed a fistful of her pubes and stroked his face with them while asking him to comment on how soft they were, I think we can rule out demonic attack. They may be the minions of Satan, but even demons would be like “bro, what the fuck?!?”