Can’t believe bill burr went. Turns out all of his billionaire critics were just meaningless
Can absolutely believe Chapelle went.
He’s become more Rick James than Rick James.
I would have been shocked if he hadn’t.
They drove a dumptruck of money to his door, he’s not made of stone.
But you have to wonder if these guys are just grabbing the silverware before political satire is banned by zee Republicans.
Everyone knows now he can be bought and swayed easily by money, since money talks.
I don’t understand how being rich can make someone such a whore ― David Cross
https://officialdavidcross.com/blogs/press/my-thoughts-on-the-riyadh-comedy-festival
It’s actually pretty easy to explain why rich people are whores.
The reason they’re rich is that they care so much about money. If they didn’t care about money, then at some point, they’d have enough money, and after that, they won’t be so interested in getting more money. Those people wouldn’t become rich.
Yes, there are exceptions. Some comedians just want to become famous, or want to go down in history as the best comedian. But most of them probably want to become rich and famous.
But what does “rich” mean? It’s not a specific amount of money. It’s that you’re comparing yourself to other people, and saying that you have more money than them. Donald Trump was so obsessed with this that he committed fraud to lie about his wealth. And basically all rich people have the same mindset to some degree.
If your goal is to be rich, then no amount of money is enough, and you’ll do anything if people pay you enough.
Jim Jefferies disappeared from the Riyadh festival lineup after he said on Theo Von’s podcast: ‘One reporter was killed by the [Saudi] government – unfortunate, but not a fucking hill that I’m gonna die on.’
What a fucking loser. He threw his soul away AND lost the payday. Lose-lose fucking loser.
The rest is even more cringy
“arguing it is for the greater good that “freedom-of-speech machines” such as himself bestow their “edgy” material on the kingdom and its subjects.”
It is one thing to sell your soul for money (or try anyways lol) but it is an entirely another level of loser quality to pretend like you are fighting for freedom while doing it.
My thought about the whole thing was that if someone went there and, in spite of the agreement they signed, teed off on the Saudis and whatever else they were forbidden from discussing, I’d have had respect. Was honestly hoping that’s what Burr was intending to do. I’d have donated to the GoFundMe for them to fight the inevitable lawsuit from the Saudis.
Obviously didn’t happen. We live in a difficult world, and when presented with the choice between fighting (hard) and rolling over (easy), people take the obvious choice. I don’t know if I’m doing it differently.
Are these sets even recorded and able to be viewed somewhere, or were they essentially private? If they’re private, I dunno, I get it.
I don’t think the consequences of that would be a lawsuit. I think they’d go missing and would only be “found” as a mutilated corpse to send a message to anyone else who might have similar ideas. Or, if they are feeling bold enough, they might even do it officially.
Yeah, as brazen as they are, I don’t think they’re murdering American citizens for breach of contract. Regardless of what they said, it would be an incredibly hostile act towards the US and would lead to sanctions at best.
Wasn’t that journalist an American citizen?
And I question whether it would even lead to real problems with the current admin or if he’d just call it a good idea on social media and applaud them for dealing with someone for saying such nasty things about them. And unleash riot forces on protestors (or just use it as an excuse to try to ramp things up more).
I wouldn’t get so annoyed if they just took the easy path and went along with it. My only reaction would be to perhaps not watch their shows. But taking the easy path while pretending like it is actually virtuous… It just feels very slimy… Now I feel like making fun of this person every time I hear his name.
Comedians understanding that they’re less significant of a form of free speech to society than a free and independent press is basically impossible for some reason.
Fuck I miss Carlin
Better he doesn’t have to see what the world has become. His internal disappointed idealist’s heart would be thoroughly broken. I know mine has been.
"…He did not address the criticism directly, but he did suggest he was happy to forget 9/11 for the right price: “I just know I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, ‘I’ll go.’” "
Apparently $375,000 is enough for Pete Davidson to piss on his fathers memory
I guess for most people it would be. Certainly I’d be like “sorry dad but I can buy a house an have my future be much more secure” if my kid did the same I’d like to think I’d understand as well…but this is for normal people. To these very well known and well off comedians is 375k that much? It’s like the equivalent of me getting like 5k which I’m not sure I would betray my morals for. Having said that nobody’s offering me 5k to!
There’s no way I’d go to Saudi Arabia for $5k.
He’s now working for his parent’s murderer.
It pays well…well it pays.
The lineup features Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Aziz Ansari and Jo Koy, among many others who are all taking their fees directly from the Saudi government.
Burr being on that list surprises me, but it said he’s also been to UAE. Davidson is pissing on his father’s grave.
They have also taken flak from their peers. “The same guy that’s gonna pay them is the same guy that paid that guy to bone-saw Jamal Khashoggi and put him in a fucking suitcase,” said Marc Maron in a standup clip posted on his Facebook.
Exactly.
Greedy fucks, all of them.
Out of all of the comedians asked only TWO had enough integrity to turn the offer down.
Who?
Shane Gillis and Stavros Halkias were the only two that turned it down as far as I know.
Mike Birbiglia apparently turned it down, but didn’t make a big deal out of it.
There’s no way that Nate Bargatze and John Mulaney didn’t get offers. I have to assume they turned it down based on the fact they didn’t go.
Do you know if they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons or if they only turned it down because they already had a schedule conflict?
I can’t find it now but FWIW I just saw a video earlier today where Shane Gillis was dicsussing this. His reaction (at least in retrospect) was “You mean the 9/11 guys? No thank you”.
Well I guess I don’t know for sure but based on their general reactions to other people doing the show it sure seems like they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons.
I dunno if he turned it down or just blasted people about it but Zach Woods had a great video denouncing this.
I’m guessing he was just one of many other comedians that were blasting the others about it. I saw one list, I don’t know how comprehensive it is, but that’s what I’m going off of. It listed all the comedians on the bill and mentioned the two that turned it down.
We really got the worst era of comedy. Bunch of court jesters dancing for a king while the city burns
American comedy is become irredeemably lame. Though Jimmy Carr is on the list there too but at least him being a spineless whore is kinda his schtick
They were funded by these large groups and that isn’t talked about enough. It wasn’t just SA blood money they chased. They took it from hertiage foudation and other conservative groups. Most probably didn’t even realize they were doing it. They’d just get booked through agents. It just happened that these agents were working with groups who probably paid for personality profiles of the lamest comedians who could benefit their cause if they were actually popular.
I’d like to hear if Carr has any additional reasoning than just money.
So far he’s not made a public statement but knowing his shows are mostly people heckling him and him responding I can’t wait to see him called out
These losers hardly represent all of comedy.
I think they have. They’re the highest paid and most well known. That’s what defines an era unfortunately. It’s what defines status quo
What’s popular and “well known” is rarely, if ever, innovative. Established comics are always the most boring and hacky of their time. They may have been fresh and innovative once, but once they’re at the top, they just become tired shells of what they once were. The actual trend setters are the up-and-comers. That’s who define the era.
Don’t make celebrity performers your idols, folks. They’re mostly psychologically damaged, amoral, backstabbing, money grubbing narcissists.
People: Billionaires are the problem
Also people: OMG Taylor Swift’s new album just dropped! Let’s go buy 3 different versions of it
You don’t get it, she’s a good billionaire because she’s a girl and owns her music. Who cares that she takes a private jet flight for what could be an hour long drive - she could never fly economy due her popularity!
I don’t disagree with you, but this is isn’t exactly “idol” level expectations, either. “Not selling out to horrific regimes” is basic decency I’d expect of everyone, not just those I look up to. Most of the names I see here make sense, but there are a few I expected to be better than this.
Especially comedians… it’s a defense mechanism.
Will people criticizing them stop to play all EA games that are owned now by Saudi Arabia?
I haven’t bought an EA game since Mass Effect 3 so this a moot point for me.
Dragon Age Inquisition for me.
I have not bought one since fifa 08
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I used to love standup comedy. These days I feel as though so much of the mainstream comedy scene is made up of immature losers who peaked in highschool. Joe Rogan, Bert Kreisher, Bobby Lee, Chris Distefano… I cannot stand these guys. The list goes on.
I thought Bill Burr was different. I’m really disappointed.
burr at least spoke out against the billionaire class…
but then he took the fucking bonesaw money. fuck.
Should we start calling him Bonesaw Bill or Bonesaw Burr.
mr funnybonesaw
Yeah, I never really cared for his vibe as a comedian until that part happened and then he decided to do this like a month or two later so I’ll go back to not caring about his shit again. I do hope people keep giving him shit for it until he stops showing his face though.
That freckled fuck is dead to me. He has gone against all he has said om his podcast and then doubled down. What a fucking tool.
Wait, what’s the bonesaw money?
MBS had Khashoggi (a journalist living in the US) murdered in the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul, then cut up with bone saws and packed into a suitcase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi
you can see the obvious comedic angles there.
Ah, okay. I was aware of that, just thought maybe there was more of a connection to bill burr than just taking the money, like he had previously commented on it.
Taylor Tomlinson popped up on my feeds and it’s a fresh breath. Gianmarco Soresi did as well, but I doubt I’ll watch his special
Taylor’s, though, I’d go see that live, and I’m not somebody to go to comedy clubs
I’ve seen her live. She’s great, and worth it. She’s funny with both her rehearsed material and her crowdwork.
I think I could prepare a damned funny show, but no way could I ad lib like Tomlinson. Sometimes, when the mood hits, I can run with it, but she’s consistently on the ball.
I really like both. Gianmarco has exploded into my recommendations recently and I love every second.
She is pure brilliant.
I don’t think I’ve seen any clips that I haven’t laughed at. maybe a few that didn’t hit hard, but whoever is doing her media, they’re picking great stuff. and lots of it really gets me good, she’s just a great act
I’m a big fan. Seen all her specials and saw her live this year. She is a big talent. I’m happy for her. In other words, I don’t think it’s that good bits are being promoted, they’re all good bits.
don’t forget caleb hearon
I really hope he grows and shows some real contrition about it. It would take time to convince me, but I really hope he just didn’t think it through. Such a bummer.
Sadly, my prediction is that he’ll use his classic “I’m dumb, I don’t read the news” line as an excuse, and then go back to trashing billionaires as early as next week.
I don’t give a shit if he grows or not, I’m done with him. I saw what he did.
Choke on your blood money, bill burka.
In my fantasy world, these comedians are currently in conference calls working on material to fry the Saudis together.
Obviously they’d execute the first one that did it, but I like to dream
In my fantasy world countries aren’t run by murderous lying regimes
Bobby Lee is a pedophile and I block every YouTube channel that suggests his videos.
This I did not know.
He came out later claiming it was a joke, but I don’t see how anyone can turn that into a comedy bit. This made me look at him deeper and he has a history of being creepy with women, many times on camera. I rather just avoid his stuff
I used to think I could sorta relate with him as he has that underachieving Asian persona.
The reason I got tired of him was how I felt like he kept giving free passes for his costars to do low-hanging racist jokes. Sometimes, a joke based on ethnicity can be bang on, like it makes me feel, “holy shit, that’s so true” because it’s based on a very keen observation. But when it’s a bunch of trashy “comedians” making jokes about small eyes, small cock, ching-chong-chang names, eating dog, etc. based on stereotypes, it’s just insulting.
And now he turns out to be a creep toward women and children, so fuck him even more, I guess. Too bad :(
Inb4 they whine in their next comedy specials that they’re ‘being cancel cultured again by Gen Z’ and this time its ‘just for working’.
Cue laughs from conservatives.
Guess everyone has a price after all…. I hope they sleep well on their millions now.
I am really disappointed to see Bill Burr here. I’m not surprised to see Mark Norman and others who made a name for themselves by making jokes at others expense. They remind me of little kids in school picking on the fat kid or the new kid from another country.
I hate to bring this up, especially since SA kills people so openly, but the US’s track record of committing terrorist acts, or supporting terrorism (South America) is terrible. We’re currently supplying weapons to Israel that they use to kill children. That’s going on right now, they’ve killed like 60,000 Palestinians, 20,000 children. If you weren’t American would you be okay with comedians playing in a country with America’s history?
I haven’t been to the US since I had an already scheduled stopover shortly after Trump was elected (but before he was in office) the first time. Since then I’ve only taken flights that avoid US airspace.
Before that, I used to travel to the US regularly. I just don’t trust things to be both predictable and safe for foreigners anymore, since the current leaders have been very vocal that they consider the constitution to only apply to certain people.
If you weren’t American would you be okay with comedians playing in a country with America’s history?
The difference is comedians performing at Riyadh are paid by the Saudi government. Comedians performing in US are not paid by US government.
They better be funny or they may be killed and cut up into tiny pieces…
Likewise we’re not paid enough to be their audience. Grifters, kindly fuck off the stage.
