• Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Most disappointing line in the sand ever.

    Ten years ago was the time to flip out about fascism. I can’t believe some people are still telling us “wait for it…!”

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      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the best time to flip out about fascism is ten years ago. Second best time is today.

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        This is what we need to hear. Not condescension for inaction, but a call to continuously move forward with protest, unification, and unwaveringly loud "fuck you"s to the administration that’s trying to kill us.

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        Oh! Hah, I completely overlooked the timestamp. I never did twitter or bsky, micro blogging feels as opaque and pointless to me as Discord does to …well, most people.

    • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      We deserved better. We deserved bernie. I blame hillary clintons ambition and the dnc at the time for trying to force her through. Bernie would have beaten trump the first time.

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        If you’re trying to split the difference between finding a specific contemporary individual to blame versus blaming an inherently flawed democracy that contains the seeds of its own destruction, you could do worse than the DNC top brass of the last decade.

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        2 months ago

        Government full of actual Nazis. Clearance Thomas fireselling Supreme Court decisions. Blame Hillary Clinton.

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          I blame her because they put their thumb on the scale of a democratic process. The 2016 primary race was very contenious. The clinton campaign not only used their insider connections in the dnc to directly help her campaign (they are supposed to be agnostic in that process), they also ran a toxic campaign that put off nearly half the base. So much so that a guy like Trump could win in the first place.

          I blame them because they were so fucking reckless in their pursuit of power that they lost to these clowns. The real choice was bernie or trump, and when bernie was no longer an option, people went trump

  • Jhex@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    another “let’s set some arbitrary line down the road to avoid doing anything today”

    you already live under a fascist regime you cowards… DO SOMTHING! take action NOW

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      You decide to take action. Please roll for initiative.

      rolls 1

      You slip and fall on banana peel. You ran out of action points.

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          I’ve never played DND. I’ve only know it through memes. 😔 I tried to put the gist of what I understood.

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          Do you crit-fail your players on ANYTHING? I can’t imagine the dm ideas for how one in twenty swings should send your sword flying into the ether.

          • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I crit fail my players on skill checks if they have a negative with modifiers.

            “Oh you rolled a -1 on your lockpicking roll? Sorry bucko, you broke your pick off deep in the lock because what you thought was a false set was your tensioner slipping”

      • Jhex@lemmy.world
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        The time to do something was back a few decades ago… back in November there was a good chance to buy some time… now it’s all uphill but it will only get harder the more you guys keep on “waiting for it”

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          There’s no waiting going on tbh. This is like a group project in college, there is no intent to do anything but hope others will resolve things for you.

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            Yeap… but nobody is coming to save anyone

            And here is the problem… nothing that Trump is doing could possibly end in a better situation for the USA, so when the shit hits the fan and the inevitable depression hits, the USA will do the only thing it knows how to do (specially under Conservatives): they will blame some other country and go to war with it and this time, hitting Yemen won’t do it

            Right now I am basically only hoping WWIII is not fought with nukes… that’s my best 10 year scenario

    • CptEnder@lemmy.world
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      Ehh naw we just need to let it reset. The house of cards will crumble as soon as Trump croaks, then once ceaser is gone Rome will burn. Hopefully what comes after is better, but it probably won’t.

      Personally, my family came to this foreign land, that’s not ours, to seek out a better economic life and freedom. 2024 was the first election that the youngest voting generation went more conservative in the last 100 years. The beliefs of this nation no longer align with my own, so I’m returning back to Europe where my family once came in search of those very values. I realize a lot isn’t great there either, but I have more trust in the EU protecting my fundamental rights than I do the US Constitution.

      Failing that, at least Europe has better wine and I’ll just enjoy the view while the world ends.

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        ^ this is the epitome of the “fuck you, got mine” mentality… you seem to think you have an out so every body else can go fuck themselves… you are not even going to try to spare most of the worst of it, you are happy to let everyone suffer because you think you have an out

        Good luck EU if this is what they are getting from the USA

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    Dude, your “canary” is decomposing at the bottom of a gas-flooded mine. That ship sailed months ago.

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      He was fired because that was the plan when Colbert was fired. They literally said he was next.

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        2 months ago

        Okay but why in that way - during the taping of a show? That doesn’t seem very “planned”. That seems like a desperate rush.

        Over the weekend would have been smoother. Hell, just about any other way would have been smoother.

        They gave Colbert another year.

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          Someone in the administration (not Trump obviously) is smart enough to know to strike while the iron is hot. Use the Charlie Kirk killing to justify all kinds of shit that they want to do anyway while they have an angry army of supporters to shout down anyone who dares to speak up against their actions.

          They were always going to declare antifa a “terrorist organization.” They were always going to come after Kimmel. They were always going to put democrats on lists to be investigated. The MAGA anger over Kirk’s killing just gave them the opportunity to speed up the timeline and they couldn’t let it go to waste.

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    The US has always been fascist, since Manifest Destiny up to and after WWII. Fascism is just now turning inward towards the people who never thought they’d see this end of the stick.

    Still, despite all the hatred and forces pushing us apart and pinning us down, this is our opportunity to restructure the country and make reparations to those we’ve wronged.

    Have radical optimism in the face of radical hatred.

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      I really appreciate this remark but I think it kind of leaves something out, among the hopeful message.

      I think America is actually experiencing the greatest theft of wealth, being transferred AWAY from the middle- and lower- classes, TO the ruling Elite.

      I see people dancing up and down on leopards ate my face, just as one random example… But the short-term mockery misses the long-term pain under which we will all suffer.

      There are farmers who love Trump who are going to lose their farms, when they are purchased by large conglomerates, after their overseas markets were intentionally destroyed with tariffs. The last thing this world needs is more Monsanto-esque food control.

      There are huge swaths of US tourist properties that are going up for fire sale in the next couple years. All of that land is going to be stolen because no one can/will visit. Although tourism is a huge industry, it’s still highly competitive and the margins are razor thin. Most tourist destinations will not be able to weather the storm.

      Manufacturing, agriculture, travel… like… I could just make a list of so many lives that businesses that are going to be destroyed. And there’s fatcats just waiting to strike and steal what they have built, for pennies on the dollar.

      America is in a massive crisis right now. People are so busy focusing on mockery and schadenfreude and identity politics, there’s not a lot of talk about what’s actually going on in the bigger picture!

      All of America’s wealth is being stolen. Every citizen is having their generational wealth swindled from under them. Even if there’s not a direct loss one could point to, massive inflation has horrendously deflated a century of citizens’ wealth building. Families have been set back generations, even if the course is reversed. Reproductive rights are almost gone. Bump more children out with less ability to feed them, more slaves.

      It’s such a dire situation and people aren’t grasping the scope of it. It freaks me the hell out.

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        There have been other times in the USA’s history where rich robber barons have held the majority of power.

        Thankfully, class consciousness (and political integrity) had emerged enough during those times for the working class to claw back freedoms they lost to the capitalists. Look at May Day for how we earned a 40 hour work week and weekends.

        I do agree with you though. There is more wealth disparity today than any other time in human history. The working class response to this betrayal by the rich must reflect this in kind, and achieve unprecedented levels of equity and equality compared to any other time in human history.

        That may sound ideal, but it’s necessary. Suffering across the world may have decreased in the past 40-50 years, but the benefits of technology and the 21st century have not trickled down to the workers. Stuff should be cheaper because we’ve displaced our labor with robotics and freed our time and energy with better tools (e.g. assembly lines). It is a crime that things have only gotten more expensive as time has passed.

        Power over the masses is of course the culprit. Capitalist power ensures the majority are enslaved to their 9-5s, their student loan debt, and even the ever prescient force to abolish ownership of stuff in favor of rent. There’s a reason why socialism is becoming a popular ideology in Democratic and Left-leaning populations: capitalism isn’t apart of it.

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          The Orange turd may actually help make things better again.: It was last time that oligarchs/robber barons had too much power that FDR changed the game & gave power back to the people.

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        What you’re describing here is the process that will drive the change parent speaks of. The dispossesion you’re pointing out is what will make people come together against the dispossessors.

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    i’ve noticed something not so funny about when facism gets called out in the mainstream; out loudly enough to be heard. Seemingly, its usually only when it starts to inconvenience cishet ablebodied white people.

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    my retirement plan was dying in the water wars already, I guess the timetable has been moved forward ralsei-doobie

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    And when that canary croaks, it’ll be another. And another and another, so long as we don’t have to get up off our asses and stamp out these evil fuckers and undo their shit

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      It’s not that easy though. We are at the conclusion of a decades long campaign to poison not just our government and politics, but our society as well. Take out every fascist tonight, and we still have to contend with the fact that, as a people, we are no longer capable of operating a democracy. Healing the divides and fixing generations of indoctrination takes time we don’t have.

      I’m not saying there is no hope, but we have to sober about the tasks ahead of us if this country is ever going to heal.

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    inb4 those fired show hosts start their YouTube channels and air their shows there. A Lithuanian journalist has been doing it for 10 years now and so can they.

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      Google can just as easily be squeezed and threatened by Trump to take-down any youtubers they don’t like

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      Someone else made a good point about that on a different thread; they brought up the fact that youtube revenue wouldn’t be able to support his staff and writers.

      Maybe he could do a show on YouTube, but it would have to be very different and it would still leave a lot of folks jobless.

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    Happens to him? He’s already been removed. His removal is just another fascist step forward. Nothing will happen to him after this. It’s the next step you need to be concerned with, and the next, and the next… eventually we’ll get to someone being executed, normal citizens being disappeared for opposing The Party in some way, full internet censorship, full control of State Media, any democrat politicians are removed, opposing republican opposition is instantly jailed without trial… a lot of steps yet to come. Guess they could skip to the end, but I don’t think we’re there yet.