And they and their rich friends will find a way to pay their way out of it
They’ll each own one of the farms, and claim that means they work there every day already.
As somebody that worked in a cornfield for minimum wage, it sucks. Your feet get heavy with mud, it’s hot, the leaves give you “papercuts”. One summer is enough to make you never want to do it again.
Are we also nationalizing the farms?
Only the losses!
Next we kill all the birds!
That picture looks like a tobacco field, which is a dangerous crop to pick. Americans would quit immediately if forced to pick their own.
What makes it dangerous?
Supposedly an illness called Green Tobacco Sickness can occur from absorbing nicotine in the tobacco leaves along with heat injuries from working in the fields
I arguably hate Maoism the most of all popular authoritarian left ideologies. So it makes sense to me that irredeemably evil and stupid conservatives and fascists would unconsciously like it’s policies.
Under this plan, would the farms be nationalized, or would people be forced to work for the profit of private farm owners?
DEAL, however as these farms are worked by the public they should become owned by the public. And the harvest be distributed at-cost to the public.
While we’re at it, nationalize
Monsantofuckin Bayre I guess. Either that or stop letting them fucking copyright seeds.Monsanto has not existed as a brand since 2018. The name of the new baddie is Bayer, who acquired them and got rid of thae name. Same shitty playbook, but let’s focus our anger on things that exist.
Sorry, haven’t kept up with the ever-shifting hydra of corporations well enough I guess 🤷♀️.
Hydra is right. They’re owned by the same group of entities who all have cross-holdings in each other making them essentially one giant megacorp.
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It’s just another example of how great public works programs were. If the workers were housed/fed/paid decent wages, I think people would sign up in droves to travel around and do work that improves their country all the while learning useful trades/skills. And something like publicly owned farms would probably pay for themselves.
Nationalized industry that always produces food at cost and pays all of its workers well and fairly would be a great idea so long as the people setting it up aren’t completely untrustworthy fucks.
Oh wait
Real farmer here(who has never voted red). I don’t trust the average American not to completely fuck up any harvest and not to bitch constantly about the heat or dirt. It’s bad enough hearing people who work in AC complain about the heat to me.
I spent my teens working on farms (labour intensive vegetables) and can confirm. Every spring we’d have a few crew from last year, and new ones; even in gorgeous spring weather people would last a couple days before quitting. And it’s not difficult, but it requires attention to detail, which some people either don’t have or don’t care to have.
I worked on an assembly line making CV joints. The inner and outer races had a numbering system based on measured size. The outer races were honed, and there would be size variations we would have to keep adjusting for. 4 inners go with 4 outers, 5 inners with 5 outers and so on. 4 was the most common.
One shift, on a Saturday, one of the workers used 4s for everything. Some were failing, inspection at the end of the line, but a lot didn’t. Well, then the 4s ran out. Since that is the most common size, we were down. She intentionally ran us out of parts by building things wrong, potentially making scrap or defective drive train parts because she didn’t want to work on Saturday.
Her job, that she applied for and took, knowing there are times when would have to work weekends. A job with a good union and Healthcare.
I can only imagine the kind of employees you’d get by forcing them to work the fields, for I’m going to guess way less than UAW wages. In the sun. I think you’d see a lot of sabotaged equipment or crops.
Not trying to justify her or anything, but companies do love to abuse shit.
Yes, being expected to occasionally work overtime is a reasonable expectation.
However, most companies will just keep doing it. Im sorry, if I have to work overtime almost every single shift for more than 2 weeks - that is not reasonable. (And that shit happens even with unions)
Seriously, this person is making CV joints. It’s not like they are a doctor or a firefighter. I don’t see the urgency. This world needs to chill.
“That’s right, the 4 goes in the square hole”
~That Lady
I always love that video.
This but for the police force.
Turn the police into something of a militia, 80% made of constituents from that jurisdiction, picked at random à la jury duty (exemptions apply)
As a European I think it’s a great idea for USA to enter your proposed perpetual state of civil war
It’s an interesting idea, but a proper police force should consist of trained and capable people (unlike the current states one!), of which random selection will necessarily create it so that many are not.
That is a terrible idea. You already see what happens when they’re “trained”.
this would absolutely turn into a “purge” rotating revenge. We just need the ability to hold our current police accountable when they break the law.
United Statians buy a gun at Walmart and already start wearing camouflage clothing, speaking using walkie talkie lingo, and listening to tactical entry AI generated podcasts.
Do you want to give them power and a badge?
Who’s the “our” in “our farms” referring to? 👀
A very good point.
…right , so only the family farms? Not any farm owned by a corporation, right?
I was thinking more like “farms collectively owned by the populace”…
You know…good people. (Pay no attention to the fact that the definition of good people changes wildly every day based on the moods and whims of Dear Leader.)
Well it talks about Americans so I’m guessing it means American farms
Bourgeois conservatives are obsessed with 20th century communism. The billionaire class has had its own vanguard since Prescott Bush. Steve Bannon calls himself a Leninist, though I’m not real sure what he means. The Republican obsession with culture war is influenced by Gramsci and his theory of hegemonic power. And the republican strategy of politically controlling cities through rural areas, as in “the country surrounds the city,” is a component of Maoism.
Not saying there is an affinity between far right conservatives and communists, I don’t believe that there is one. But 20th century communists’ application of dialectical materialism uncovered new political dynamics through their work with the masses, and unfortunately the far right learned many of these lessons, though only as a way to gain power for themselves noy liberation for all; while democrats clung death like to liberal idealism and refused to learn anything from the left, since it is the dems job to oppose and keep power from us.
They’re obsessed with selling the idea of 20th century communism without that label while practicing 19th century robber-baron-ism. They can be kings and gods and then sell everyone else the tools to chase the next ideal. Because ultimately all they have is brand loyalty, fear, and a lack of any other options keeping farmers with them.
Back in 2016 Trey Crowder and 2 other comedian friends wrote a book called the Liberal Redneck Manifesto. As someone that grew up redneck, it was probably the best assessment of the situation in 2016 I’ve seen so far, and the media missed it 100%. The ultimate lesson is that until it affects the under-educated and they think they chose the alternative, they will continue to act against their own best interests because “That’s how it’s done.” Same exact thing applies to the developing world.
Then J.D. Vance and his stupid book came in and swept the scene with his mediocre drivel that made coastal liberal elites feel like now they understood how Trump won. Still pisses me off how joyously out of touch they were as they fueled the fire that got us here.
I’ll have to check out that Crowder book. Yeah they want to restore the gilded age.
But there will be no new deal. This time we don’t stop until every last one of them has been thrown down put of power, and faced the judgement of the people for their excessive crimes
Nah I wouldn’t call it communism. They want slavery. The “good ones” own the land. And the libs are the slaves. That is their ideal world.
Oh absolutely, 1000%. Its not communism, but they’ll use whatever affectation/artifice to get to slavery.
So… Slavery with more steps?
We should use the budget we use to put people through the army to instead have them work on public works projects. Maybe it can just be part of being in the army. Not just farm work but construction work and especially maintenance work.
The government can hire people without making them indentured slaves or trained killers. Well, at least it used to be able to do that
Yeah, but this ensures young rich people have to work an actual job at least once in their lives too.
Young rich people will be driving the heavy farming machinery in air conditioned cabins while the conscripted poor people do the manual backbreaking labor in the scorching sun or freezing wind.
I wonder how many rich kids will develop bone spurs?
Ok, they can work retail.
Nope. It’s slavery. They want to do a slavery.
And not even smart. Farming today is sonething you have to train at and want / need to do. Grab 100 people that have never farmed before and set them loose in a field to find out how quickly crops burn.
