• RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    I am so tired of this shit… every year they try to do this shit again. Every year we again have to convince them not too. Then a year later they try again.

    They will keep trying until they win. Instead of focusing on important things, they just want to push laws for more control. Even our representatives should KNOW that people don’t want this.

    I always wonder that. When we mass call and email to let them know they are wrong on something incredibly obvious. Do they go “oh wow we didn’t know you didn’t want us to know your private conversations or have a list of your favorite porn categories 😲😲😲”? They should already know this.

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      29 days ago

      Take note that there are lobbies pushing for these. Security state, police and religious fanatics wanting morality policing, also politicians who re afraid of popular upheaval.

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        Maybe if politicians did what the people wanted, they wouldn’t have to be afraid of an uprising against them… and if religious cunts would just stay in their churches and mind their own business…

  • PastafARRian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    Educate friends and family on government surveillance, use privacy tools like Signal, VPN, Tor, etc. Help them set it up. You can do everyday actions to push back far more useful than signing a petition.

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      28 days ago

      Until they decide those tools are illegal as well. They solve a different problem. The government will ban things it cannot control so you have to fight governments directly, not just work around them.

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        28 days ago

        We should vote and learn how to shoot. Sign petitions and learn how to use privacy tools.

        When used with a bridge/Snowflake, Tor can bypass government censorship. It works in China for example.

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          I don’t trust tor. It’s western tech developed by the US and they’ve been caught lying multiple times about security features being removed from tor browser.

          I’m glad it’s there and we should always have multiple options but at this point i2p has more credibility and fewer questionable ties than tor does.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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    28 days ago

    I’m fully onboard, we have to fight this for everyone’s sake.

    Not completely related, but is this 100-mil-in-profits the best option to gather signatures?
    Via wiki/Change.org:

    Change.org is a website which allows users to create and sign petitions in an attempt to advance various social causes by raising awareness and influencing decision-makers. The site is a US-based for-profit company and claims to have 557 million users as of August 2025.

    Isn’t there a EU site to petition?
    https://www.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/

  • FOZIE@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    The European Union has begun to cross the border. I think they were inspired by United States and Signal and etc.

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    28 days ago

    The linked petition says:

    The European Parliament MPs must vote AGAINST Chat Control legislation during EPlenary vote in June-August 2021.

    It’s not even up to date. And it only has 1.8k signatures.

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      And in most cases it’s really good, thought out, constantly moving with the market & reports/reviews on it’s efficiency.

      It gets fucky when personal interests (like “politicians keeping down crime & protecting the kids”, or lobbyists doing the same) get mixed in tho.
      This is such political popularity case.