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On france, we currently have one with 2.1M signatures, gov still said nope (petition against reintroduction of dangerous pesticide, backed by sciencists community)
Don’t you guys have a more effective way of convincing the government?
Yellow vests, Citroëns on fire, Guillotines
Citroëns on fire
A fine tradition
Milk poured all over the streets of Paris worked well for the dairy farmers to the best of my knowledge. Imagine the fucking smell two days later.
The French are first class protesters.
There is no legal binding whatsoever?
It compells the government to talk about it.
That’s it.“so what shall we do about that petition then?”
“tell them to shove it?”
“great ! Good work everyone, let’s have lunch.”
I mean 122,000 out of 60 million isn’t a lot.
Could likely get 5 million to say banning people based on colour is a good idea, but I don’t agree.
Only need 500 (out of 40mil) + one MP sign off for the government to legally have to respond in Canada. They don’t have to say yes but they have to officially acknowledge you at least. I was pretty surprised by how low that threshold is.
why are you including infants amd people without the right to vote in your figure?
there’s less than 48mill who can vote btw
That’s not the point. The point of this post is that the government didn’t respond.
I read that as the governments response was no. Not that they didn’t respond.
The government in the UK will respond if 10,000 signatures and will debate in parliament if 100,000 signatures.
They did, they said no.
The purpose of online petitions is to provide a means for people to psychologically discharge their righteous anger at something and need to be heard about it, by “doing something”, with a “something” which the politicians can safelly ignore.
It’s a lot harder to ignore large demonstrations and even harder to ignore people activelly campaigning at the grassroots level in their electoral circles to make specific asshole politicians loose their seats, so best have the
plebescitizens discharge their anger on some automated online straight-to-trash People’s Will recorder.Wait until you hear about protests
but why
Because there is nothing legally binding about petitions.
Well it does atleast force them to make a public opinion on it, it’s a foot in the door.
Which would be useful if they were also forced to actually provide a somewhat science based line of reasoning for their answer. But in reality its gonna be completely made up reasons not based on any facts.
Not all petitions are based on stuff that’s “factual” or “provable” as well though.
Petition to paint crosswalks in pride colours for example.
Thats true i guess. I was thinking of car traffic restrictions or “one more lane” type stuff.
While I wouldn’t personally mind pride colors on crosswalks, having them be forced to answer “anything” is better than being allowed to ignore it.
Example:
"Painting them pride color will increase the cost of painting them, as it requires new tools and extra colors adding complexity to an otherwise quick paint job with tools used also on other similar road work .
While we agree in the spirit, the cost of doing this outweighs the increased visibility of a minority group, and will therefore not be considered further. "
Yup, it can be a way of getting a discussion started
For Canada the rules are as follows:
The Standing Orders of the House of Commons require the government to respond to every petition presented to the House within 45 calendar days. If the House is not sitting on that day, the response must be presented at the next sitting of the House.
The petitioner, supporters, signatories, and the member of Parliament who authorized the online publication of the e-petition will be notified by email when the response is tabled in the House. A copy will also be found on the petitions website along with the original petition.
https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Home/AboutContent?guide=PIElectronicGuide
The intern responding doesn’t have the authority to do anything.
Scotland stopped voting Labour into power over a decade ago. If only England had the balls to do it too. Torys and Labour, two sides of the same corrupt coin. Come England, youre better than that. Starmer is a tory cunt. Vote greens, or Libdems, or anyone else buy those two corrupt scum parties.
LabourStarmer is just warming shitface Nigel’s seat at this point
Counterpoint: Brexit
Petition
Bad thing please
Government responded
Yes
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The petition to reverse Brexit got something like 4 million signatures. Response: LOL No.
Brexit it’s referendum because the Tories were scared of loosing power to Frog Face Faeage’s party. So they did a bit of appeasement.
This image is a great reflection of the entire history of the UK, incidentally.
Pretty much - we all put our names to them, but they do nothing.
The best option is to organise writing campaigns to your local MP and indicate that this is the decider on your vote.
More like “This is good thing, please vote.”
What if there was a law that said once something had enough signatures, it needs to be put to a vote?
The only issue I can think of is the threshold being too high and authenticity of the signatures.
We don’t deserve nice things.
