• SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    167
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Since when did keeping kids off of porn sites become everyone else’s problem and not the problem of parents? Oh, right, that’s just a bullshit reason to make accessing porn more difficult and a security risk since they can’t just make porn illegal.

    • cley_faye@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      126
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s not even that. Porn is just a bystander here. The first step is put in place a very large framework for making some form of verification mandatory on arbitrary services and sites under the guise of whatever (terrorism, child protection, and extremely niche content are good candidates). Once it’s in place, it becomes the new normal very quickly.

      Then, as the government, you suddenly have the power to extend the provision of said system to whatever the fuck you want. That’s where things gets funky, and not the good kind.

      • bizarroland@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        40
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        And look at the money.

        The reasoning for this is to eventually lock the internet down completely to put up fences and paywalls everywhere to every single site so that even if you pay for the privilege of using the internet, you will have to pay more money to actually use the internet.

        It is all about controlling you and taking every single penny they possibly can out of your pocket.

        All of the tracking, all of the identity verification, all of the invasive watching every single thing you do on your computer and your phone, everywhere, all of the time always, is all about milking you for every single penny they can.

        Even though they are insanely rich, beyond the imagination of any human being that has ever lived in the hundreds of thousands of years of humanity’s existence on this planet they still don’t have enough money and they will still never be satisfied with how much money they have.

        The fact that there are free websites where people can congregate and communicate and have fun with each other without paying them for the privilege galls them.

        It grinds their heart and soul the way watching a dog get shot in the head at the end of old yeller does to a normal person.

        These people are evil, and we need to stop them.

        When it comes down to it, we may have to rise up and slay them.

          • bizarroland@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            2 months ago

            I’m not saying that we should start getting pitchforks or anything right now. I’m just saying that like, they need to know that that is an option and that if they keep pushing us, they’re gonna start painting targets on their own back.

            I mean, that’s two billionaires down in a year, and they’re still ramping things up. Next year, it’ll be four. The year after that, it’ll be eight. And in like 15 years, we won’t have any billionaires left unless they fucking straighten up an act right.

      • brax@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 months ago

        That’s when the databases become huge targets and the government officials get their everything leaked online. They voted against privacy, they can enjoy the stones they threw in the glass house they forced themselves into.

    • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      It’s more than that, they want to

      1. limit who can post and make money off porn, and no, this isn’t to support small creators at all unfortunately
      2. build massive blackmail networks
      3. build massive sex work websites with curated AI models and videos

      And yes, any time ANY ONE EVER says, “Do it for the kids, just think of the kids,” when it is not something DIRECTLY and CONSENSUALLY helping kids, but instead FORCING ADULTS TO DO THINGS, is being manipulative every time.

      • bizarroland@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        2 months ago

        The only time the phrase “do it for the kids” is actually valuable is when it’s someone asking you to grill hot dogs at a picnic.

        If it’s a politician saying it, “do it for the kids” is slang for “bend over and take it up the ass because otherwise you’re a bad person”.

        • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          2 months ago

          Yes and again, your example is an action of directly and consensually helping kids. The kids directly get the hot dog you made. They consent to eating the hotdog. They aren’t forced to eat it. You aren’t giving the hotdog to a third person who will then eat it and then by extension later help a child in some other way. Which btw, they should be doing in the first place.

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          I’m gonna be the odd one out, I guess.

          At a picnic, it’s likely that you’re not grilling just for the kids; and likely that grilling means you’re excluded from other activities.

          Activities like playing games with said kids.

          Bringing them into the picture instantly becomes manipulative, where you can make the same argument (that they need to be cooked, and someone has to do it,) without it.

          Edit to add some background: I’m an uncle, but not a father. At family picnics, my bro and parents like to use my nephew and nieces as a guilt trip so I let them task dump; even though we’re organized enough they’re fairly equitable (including watching the kids as a task, even if it’s more fun.)

          SiL in particular is egregious.

          It’s always manipulative, even if when the child’s wellbeing is directly involved, it’s maybe called for. But that really shouldn’t t be the case at a picnic.

          Most parents don’t even realize they’re doing it- ie asking you to cover their summer vacation (and not reciprocating.) at work.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    ·
    2 months ago

    wow, they actually, properly, fully did this shit. Amazing.

    So glad I left that shithole. My friends are aparantly using VPNs, which is the same fucking thing I had to use to access WIKIPEDIA in TURKEY.

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    55
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    I hope he sues and wins

    I don’t want to know anything more about this man other than he has a lot of tattoos, likes porn, and isn’t afraid to say it.

  • deaf_fish@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    2 months ago

    Let this man watch porn without giving out any of his personal information. I too want to watch porn without giving out any of my personal information. You do too, if you watch porn.

    • TeddE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      The people making the rules know this. They just … in their Christian nationalist hearts believe porn shouldn’t exist. And since there’s too much precedent to simply make it illegal (they’ve tried before). So here they’re trying to make watching it as painful and degrading as humanly possible.

      In other words, you’re not wrong - just preaching to the choir.

      • deaf_fish@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        Christian nationalists say that porn shouldn’t exist while watching a lot of porn and they would get mad if someone took away their porn. They only want others to not watch porn.

        • TeddE@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 months ago

          They all have Sunday brain. Living one life Sunday morning that’s just disconnected from their choices they make the rest of the week.

          But, that’s indoctrination for you. The most infuriating part is when otherwise good & great people decide that calling themselves Christian, setting themselves up as human shields for all the abusive controlling monsters among their number. They’ll say the monster is ‘a sinner’ and ‘doesn’t represent our values’ while rushing to the defense of Christianity. They’d rather white-wash the Christian label than fix the structural abuse done by by ‘their neighbors’ (but it’s never their church that’s the problem).

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          Christian nationalists say that other people shouldn’t watch porn but that they’ve figured out a curious caveat within the faith that exempts them, personally. Then they establish special repositories of pornographic material that serve as an incentive for membership and a form of blackmail against turncoats.

          Porn becomes a more direct means of patriarchal control - both in how it restricts which senior members are allowed to buy it and (in turn) which women are allowed to sell it, and at what price. It is a form of societal monopsony intended to make sex work a privilege afforded to elites at below market rates.

      • aceshigh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        Yeah. Except these “Christians” also love to rape children. It’s pure projection on their part.

        • TeddE@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 months ago

          They’re usually (usually) not the same individuals, but the evil ones deliberately use the “good” ones as a shield. They’re a happy to rally as Christians to any attack from outside the religion, but will write off abuses they see internally as “not my church”.

  • biofaust@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    2 months ago

    From here

    It’s all part of the plan. Only this time they let the cousins across the pond do the first significant move.

  • paraphrand@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 months ago

    They just need to support alternate verification paths for people like him, and people who have otherwise been disfigured.

    They should sue for discrimination if steps are not quickly taken to support their situations.

    It’s funny how this turns into the gov needing to provide equal access to porn.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    He knows that video games where you can pose the character can bypass it, right?

    Iirc death stranding and a few others have been shown to work.

    Alternatively VPNs work.

    Or piracy.

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 months ago

    On one hand this guy has a hell of a hobby that seems like it steps on everything else in his life. On the other its amazing dude exists to fuck with normative behavior and policies that exist to keep people down.

  • jsomae@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Not saying that he should have to do this – but I bet he could apply foundation+concealer to cover them up.

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      2 months ago

      Why bother, just generate a face with some other AI and call it a day.

      This entire thing is some out of touch shit.