Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it is to become a member of the community, theres a reasonable amount of subs (or whatever the other word for em is) that fit my interests, enough linux content and shitposting for my liking, and the overall random posts made by people equally fed up with Leddit. (also i admit i used reddit a little cus there was this post on the fedora sub showing how to fix a sound issue i been having after a recent update)
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great, i’ve really liked lemmy so far. its really the first alt big tech platform like this that i’ve gotten into, was never big on mastodon or any of the others out there.
lemmy is honestly a breath of fresh air. really great platform so far, i think it has very strong potential.
i still use reddit for some things, but overall i’m starting to use lemmy a lot more. great work from the devs, can’t wait to see the future!
Mastodon is so much like a Twitter/Facebook replacement that I’m not even interested in it. Reddit/Lemmy’s focus is not on broadcasting yourself but rather link aggregating and conversations about those links in the comments. It’s always been so much better of a forum type of experience than Twitter/Mastodon/Facebook.
I heard someone else put the issue with mastadon/twitter into words in a way that explained why I never jived with it. With mastadon/twitter you follow people and personalities while reddit and message boards were more about following a subject or interest. The twitter algorithm and sharing I guess spreads a lot of stuff around and it’s cool that twitter has so many famous and inside industry people running stuff, but that community based on specific personalities makes it harder to follow.
Exactly. The Twitter and Facebook style systems are about broadcasting your personal content. Whereas Reddit and other forums is more about discussion. It’s less ego-centric.
At least on my instance everything is running fast, snappy. I like the clean interface. Haven’t encountered any major bugs yet.
The only downside for me so far is that there is not a lot to see yet. The only active posts and communities are about lemmy itself. Which is understandable of course but I can’t wait to actually get to the phase where I actually get to experience real content lmao
Oh man it has been unironically great! First day I joined there was basically nothing but a meme sublemmy and a couple of tech subs too, but nowadays there are communities popping up left right and center, and I’m seeing so many familiar subs recreated on here, too
Overall my past week of using Lemmy have been phenomenal, and I’m happy to say that Lemmy has become my mindless scrolling app of choice now
Edit: correct number of weeks
I love it so far,only needs more people
This. We have to spread the word mouth to mouth. There are a lot of people who are sick of reddit and willing to tolerate the growing pains + bugs of Lemmy.
Well, I’m here !
I have removed my Reddit account after 10yrs + 100k + karma and more hours invested than I would like to admit.
This time, I’m legit done with the place. I don’t like where they are headed and decided to give Lemmy a go.
So far, so good :)
I got my account approved and I’m good to go. This is my first comment of many, many more to come.
Good to be here folks…
i doubt ill be fasting from reddit cus theres always instances where i look for smt and the answers are there (like in the search results). but ima be using lemmy from now on for casual scrolling and entertainment instead
So, first day of Lemmy and so far I’m enjoying it. I’m looking through communities and seeing what I’d like to follow or not.
Criticism (hopefully constructive) that I do have:
- I miss the random niche subreddit side of things, but I’m not sure if that’s as a result of lack people on the platform, or the UI not promoting that style of thing much.
- I am missing a good iPadOS client. I’m currently using the Web UI, which works well enough, but it’d be great to have a more native app.
- It seems strange that I can’t have a One True Fediverse Identity where my mastodon identity is the same as my lemmy identity and vice versa. I note that Takahē has started refocusing into more of an identity broker for ActivityPub and less of an online experience, so maybe it will be the one true unifying identity.
On the plus side:
- There are a lot of fun general communities on here.
- People are really nice, in general, and this doesn’t seem to be changing, compared to the histories I’ve been browsing
- I really like markdown as a way to post, and it seems to work ok from my iPad
All in all, it’s been a positive 24hrs, I might give an update after a week or two.
I’m excited for the possibilities, but daunted by the realities.
It’s going to be tough to get enough foot traffic to start populating smaller subs. It seems like the Reddit API drama is the big break needed to hit a critical mass of users, but how many will take the time to figure out something like Lemmy? And are the Lemmy instances ready? It’s strange to root for Reddit to go through with the API changes after using Reddit for so long. But if there was ever a time to pay a bit extra for additional hosting resources, June 11th (or now!) should be it. If a large influx of new users crash Lemmy instances, and no one can sign up, a golden opportunity will be lost.
Signing up was not a flawless process. You are asked to make a choice about servers with little guidance on what it all means.
Requiring a 10 character password with additional character conditions is going to turn a lot of possible new users OFF. It should be 6 characters, with no conditions. Yes, it’s not secure, but we need sign ups above everything else. Users can choose to get as complex as they want, but simplicity should also be an option. If people later grow to value their Lemmy accounts, they can secure them at a later time. But extremely easy sign up should be the default for now.
Asking people to write an extensive answer as to “why you want to join this particular server” should also be suspended temporarily. Again, it’s about ease of signing up. We should try to get as many signups in as quickly as possible, and weed out the problem people later. After the possible Reddit migration boom ends, you can go back to application essays as a requirement for entry.
The web interface is buggy. The site will often “reset” as you are reading a thread, and the whole thread will act if “refreshed”. If this causes users to lose a long post they are typing, they might quit Lemmy then and there.
The community structure needs to be more unified across instances. It’s confusing that there are local groups as well as “multiverse” groups across federations, often with the exact same name. It’s a bummer that the communities can be splintered, and will have people not realize what’s really available.
I think we’re might see some weaknesses of a distributed system like Lemmy in the next few weeks. It’s hard to organize and get everyone rowing in the same direction with no “CEO” or clear leader. It does feel like little fiefdoms doing their own things, and that makes it even harder to hit critical mass.
In terms of content and userbase, so far so good. It obviously leans heavily towards the technically competent. Lemmy sort of screens for the technology inclined since it’s only well known to those who are up to date with the latest in tech. So of course it’s easy to feel like everyone is like minded and cool for now. But we need to attract casuals if we want vibrant, non-tech groups to exist and flourish too.
I’ve only been exploring for 2 days though, so I can be very wrong.
Requiring a 10 character password with additional character conditions is going to turn a lot of possible new users OFF. It should be 6 characters, with no conditions.
I gather that is not your case and I see what you mean if I think about my parents for instance, but objectively I can only think that a 6 characters password with no restrictions (e.g. 123456) might have been “okeish” and yet still object of jokes 20 years ago, but now it shouldn’t absolutely be passed as a norm anyway close to “adeguate”, users need to be correctly educated on their own security awareness in general, but also especially here because the it is very likely that the instance where the user account is registered to will not have any paid customer service around to solve their users issues with account security breaches because of their weak passwords.
So regarding passwords for the casual as for the expert user once and for all the xkcd comics stripe on passwords:
https://xkcd.com/936/and here is a couple of handy online and downloadable generators inspired from that comics stripe:
https://xkpasswd.ethanify.me/
https://xkpasswd.net/s/But also learn to use password managers! Which also come often with their own handy password generators btw. The gist of it is that you need to remember only one password for the manger, and in turn it is going to remember and service for you your credentials for all your accounts. .
For instance for the average casual user Bitwarden should more than suffice, it is free, has a freely managed remote service, apps for mobile and extensions for the browsers, it is open source and has been audited: https://bitwarden.com/
I perfectly know that is a an uphill process, I can see that with my parents, but I also like to think that maybe if something I tell them about how to manage their passwords is able to stick in their mind then one day it might save them from being robbed online for always using the same few charters password everywhere for every effing website.
So regarding passwords for the casual as for the expert user once and for all the xkcd comics stripe on passwords: https://xkcd.com/936/
And when I use a passphrase that my password manager generated, the sign up form called it “weak”.
A much shorter password (about half as many characters) that is arguably weaker and has less entropy was considered “strong”. Just because it had punctuation.
And when I use a passphrase that my password manager generated, the sign up form called it “weak”.
Then respectfully it might be your fault, but I don’t know the metrics for which Lemmy rate the passwords, you can also use this other estimator, download the local version of course:
https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbnI for instance used a simple setting:
and got:
;;75.cupcake.manly.argument.53%%testing it on https://lowe.github.io/tryzxcvbn/
Lemmy although gives it a “medium” quality rating to the password, so I guess it must estimate it differently
I just got approved here, but have been on Mastodon for a couple of months. Mastodon signup was a lot glitzier, and yet I still couldn’t convert my friend, who was like “I don’t understand, what do you mean it’s like email? >_<”. I don’t have high hope for Lemmy atm…
I think Reddit will backpedal and renegotiate with users/devs down the line, once the initial backlash has died down, and they have lowered everyone’s threshold of what they would consider a “victory”. Things like Lemmy will act as a sword of Damocles/safe harbour for the next time they screw up, sure, and that’s a good thing. But I doubt Lemmy will explode in popularity, even if some 3rd party Reddit clients are discussing adding Lemmy support to sort of rugpull Reddit, and that’s for 3 reasons(imo):
- The hosting costs will be exorbitant for all those new users, considering
- Lemmy will be stuck in the exact same boat as Reddit re:all those unpaying users, except now there’s no ads either. Donations are the honourable business model, but a couple thousand well-meaning people with disposable income can’t properly finance a popular platform.
- Even if the Lemmy community solves the above 2 problems, you still have the deciding moment of the “let’s jump ship today” user tidal wave, which will make or break such a migration happening. Closest thing I can think of is the WhatsApp Privacy Policy shenanigans in '21. Melon Husk said “Use Signal” - a fine suggestion, tbh - but Signal wasn’t ready for this, and so their servers crashed and burned during the tidal wave, while for-profit Telegram just paid for more servers and thus converted the refugees into users.
I agree that the signing up process should be streamlined and bugs should be fixed. But I don’t agree we should maximize the userbase even if we need to weed out a lot of nasty people and bots later. That would make the platform more unpleasant instead of better.
I think the critical mass has already been reached. Not to be an exact copy of Reddit with all its tiny subs, but to be a nice place in its own right.
To combat the splintering problem I think there should be an option to combine similar communities of different instances. You would still have to choose an instance when posting, but when reading you wouldn’t.
I gotta say a lot of this makes sense.
Just signed up a few minutes ago. I honestly really like it so far. I was never into Twitter but I did try out mastodon and just couldn’t get used to the look of everything. It was also confusing to sign up. So far Lemmy has been great. I am surprised how many active users there are. I was worried it would be super dead.
edit: spelling
Same experience here, I checked out Mastodon and was impressed with the fediverse and open nature of everything, but the style of social media just didn’t gel with me. Not surprising as I was exactly the same with Twitter.
I was literally saying “someone needs to make Mastodon for Reddit” before I discovered Lemmy!
I feel like a lot of the discussion on here at the moment is obviously focused on Lemmy itself and Reddit, but that’s not surprising given the huge influx of new users.
Looking forward to the various communities and platform itself maturing. The first time I’ve been optimistic about social media in years, haha.
Totally agree with everything. Another major complaint I see people making is that smaller communities will form when we should just have one central one for each topic. I think this will naturally sort itself out. I will likely join a community if the content is good and the people are nice. If there is a community with 2k people and everyone is mean but a small one with 10 people and good content, I’ll join that one.
Like you I am very excited to see where it goes. I don’t think it can become massive. But it would be nice to see communities with 500k people in them. Optimizing server hosting is probably one of the biggest problems right now. I also wonder how the larger instances will make enough money to cover cost of servers.
It’s been a little tough? Trying to join communities hosted on other instances than the one I’ve joined is a little cumbersome so been having some trouble with that It almost encourages people to join the large instances for the sake of that convenience, undermining (to a certain degree) the whole point of this being federated
So much this. Still haven’t been able to join a community I’m very interested in, just because it’s hosted on another instance. From my instance it’s not visible, if I just paste the name after my instances base url it doesn’t find it, and of course I can’t sub from the instance hosting it because, well, that’s lemmy.ml and I’m feddit.it.
So yeah, that’s a bit annoying/confusing.
I think it’s awesome. It’s the first time in a whole I’ve been on “new” social media and it’s bringing back a lot of feelings I thought were dead since the internet became so centralized
So far I am really enjoying it, mostly because whenever you post something you don’t get 130493025084385 people telling you that your are a horrible person and completely wrong and offering you unsolicited advice and ignoring your question in the first place.
It is NICE here. For now at least.
I’m honestly really lost and just stumbling around in the dark. It’s been really confusing to learn about federation and what ever makes lemmy so unique.
But I’m really happy to see an open source alternative to reddit which is cool.
I have just joined for the same reason and I’m (positively) surprised how familiar it feels to reddit.
I’m enjoying figuring out how the place works. For example, when I first signed up, I couldn’t work out how Beehaw.org was part of Lemmy was part of the Fediverse, but I’m now subbed to almost as many communities on other servers as I am on Beehaw.
The learning curve has perhaps been more steep than on Reddit, but no more so than Twitter > Mastodon.
oh yea for sure, especially since feduverse twitter alternatives have weird terminology for stuff and generally diff ui
In terms of UI, I noticed yesterday that there’s one you can install for Lemmy that’s based on the classic phpBB forum design, which made me realise that Reddit was never anything more than just a massive forum. And that’s probably why I liked it so much.
I think it is annoying that most posts, like this one, are about Lemmy itself. I hope this will change soon.
