• Phoenixz
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    82 days ago

    Don’t pirate, we’re awesome!

    Here, watch these ads!

    Hey, where are you going?

  • @ansiz@lemmy.world
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    11 day ago

    Netflix peaked when it was supporting shows like Dark and Mindhunter and drove off the cliff since. My wife will subscribe for a month to watch a new season of a show like You and then cancel it again. That’s versus back in 2017 when I just had the subscription all year.

  • 2ugly2live
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    52 days ago

    Haven’t had Netflix since the password debacle. Never even missed it. 🏴‍☠️

    • @Limonene@lemmy.world
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      183 days ago

      Rejecting Netflix fixes things for you and me, but the article says Netflix has 93 million ad-supported subscribers. I’m really worried about the amount of influence advertisers have on our society, and it’s only getting worse. Even if you and I can be above the direct influence of these ads, many people are not, and those people are influencing you and me. This produces a dangerous secondary influence that can reach most of society, and just fills everyone’s mind with lies, for hardly any cost.

        • @RightEdofer@lemmy.ca
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          63 days ago

          Terrible argument. You can’t ignore scale. Algorithmic timelines increase efficacy and precision of ads tremendously. These platforms know exactly who to target with what ad, at what time, with what frequency to get the desired result. It’s like comparing a horse and buggy to a sports car.

          Generative ads will be even worse because they can be made specifically to each individual.

          • @kalpol@lemm.ee
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            12 days ago

            Oh im not defending it. Just saying we’ve been well-fed geese for a very long time now. It has just changed from cramming us full of the Tootsie Pop Owl and the Doublemint Twins with a chaser of Sears Christmas Catalog to a succotash of targeted ads.

        • @LordCrom@lemmy.world
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          43 days ago

          Except I didn’t pay a monthly fee for over the air TV. The Jeffersons didn’t cost 4.99 a month

  • LupusBlackfur
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    I’m all for services making a reasonable profit and being able to fund new shows and such endeavors…

    But we’re rapidly getting into an environment of “soaking viewers for all we can get out of them” simply to feed the fucking shareholders ever larger payouts.

    Thank you Milton Friedman. 🖕

    🙄 🤡 🖕

      • flandish
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        614 days ago

        the word is actually “capitalism.” it’s baked into its dna.

        • Libra00
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          74 days ago

          Capitalism - and I am the last person to defend it - didn’t used to be like this, or at least not as bad. shrug I could probably tolerate capitalism if, say, no company was allowed to employ more than say 15 people.

          • flandish
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            204 days ago

            yeah it’s not like Smith predicted this but yeah … it’s certainly not human nature either.

            i’d be happy if shareholders, all of them, were held criminally responsible for the criminal things corporations do - all the way down to wage theft and child labor.

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              That’d be a hell of a thing. I’m with you on that one. Too bad this country is by, for, and about the rich and we don’t really… do consequences for the rich.

          • @slaacaa@lemmy.world
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            44 days ago

            It’s an interesting debate, if what we are seeing now is the natural, inevitable progress of capitalism, or it could have gone a better way, but eg. Reagan fucked it up for all of us in the 70s.

            • Libra00
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              23 days ago

              Reagan was in the 80s, but yeah, 100% agree. But I mean someone was going to fuck it up sooner or later, cause this country has always been by, for, and about the rich, and it was pretty clear the rich weren’t very happy about how hard it was to get even richer back then.

          • @Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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            13 days ago

            That’s like saying eating fatty food never got you obese when you started.

            The end goal of capitalism was and forever will be monarchies. It’s the game of monopoly until one player owns all.

            • Libra00
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              13 days ago

              Oh I know, but it used to be at least - on the small scale - somewhat mitigated by the fact that most people were basically decent and not trying to fuck everyone else over. I remember as a young child in the 70s that my mother shopped at a grocery store that wasn’t much bigger than my house is today, a little mom and pop operation that had been open for 40 years and run by an old guy, his wife, and a couple of their kids. They knew every customer who came in, knew each others’ families, and were actual acquaintances or even friends instead of merely friendly with them. Nowadays I couldn’t even tell you how to go about finding a grocery store that isn’t the size of my neighborhood and owned by one of maybe 5 companies. Monopolies certainly existed before, but I dunno if it was people, regulations, or what, but there was a while, when I was a kid, that at least the ground-level experience of it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now.

          • @Strider@lemmy.world
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            24 days ago

            That it wasn’t always like this doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t always lead there though.

            I think that is the point.

            • Libra00
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              23 days ago

              No, that’s fair, the isolation, alienation, and dehumanization was always going to just continue to get worse.

      • @GraniteM@lemmy.world
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        Or sinisterization.

        There was a lot of pioneering in the 70’s. The first home computers, the first video games, the first mobile phones, all right there in the late 70’s. Most people ended the 70’s living like they did in the 60’s but now there’s cool shit like the Speak n’ Spell. The average American home in 1979 had no microwave oven, a landline telephone and a TV that might have even been color. There were some nerds who had TRS-80s, some of them even had a modem so they could 300 baud each other. Normies saw none of this.

        There was a lot of invention in the 80’s. Home computer systems, video games etc. as we now commonly know them crystalized in the 80’s. We emerged from the 80’s with Nintendo as the dominant video game console platform, Motorola as basically the only name in cellular telephones and with x86 PCs running Microsoft operating systems as the dominant computing platform with Apple in a distant but solid second place. Video games were common, home computers weren’t that out there, people still had land lines, and maybe cable TV or especially if you were out in the sticks you might have one of those giant satellite dishes. If you were a bit of an enthusiast you might have a modem to dial BBSes and that kind of stuff, but basically no one has an email address.

        There was a lot of evolution in the 90’s. With the possible exception of the world wide web which was switched on in August of '91, there weren’t a lot of changes to how computing worked throughout the decade. Compare an IBM PS/2 from 1989 with a Compaq Presario from 1999. 3 1/4" floppy disk, CRT monitor attached via VGA, serial and parallel ports, keyboard and mouse attached via PS2 ports, Intel architecture with Microsoft operating system…it’s the same machine 10 years later. The newer machine runs orders of magnitude faster, has orders of magnitude more RAM etc. but it still broadly speaking fills the same role in the user’s life. An N64 is exactly what you’d expect the NES to look like after a decade. Cell phones have gotten sleeker and more available but it’s still mostly a telephone that places telephone calls, it’s the same machine Michael Douglas had in that one movie but now no longer a 2 pound brick. Bring a tech savvy teen from 1989 to 1999 and it won’t take long to explain everything to him. The World Wide Web exists now, but a lot of retailers haven’t embraced the online marketplace, the dotcom bubble bursts, it’s not quite got the permanent grip on life yet.

        There was a lot of revolution in the 2000’s. Higher speed internet that allow for audio and video streaming, mp3 players and the upheaval those caused, the proliferation of digital cameras, the rise of social media. When I graduated high school in 2005, there were no iPhones, no Facebook, no Twitter, no Youtube. Google was a search engine that was gaining ground against Yahoo. The world was a vastly different place by the time I was through college. Take that savvy teen from 1989 and his counterpart from 1999 and explain to them how things work in 2009. It’ll take a lot longer. In 2009 we had a lot of technology that had a lot of potential, and we were just starting to realize that potential. It was easy to see a bright future.

        There was a lot of stagnation in the 2010’s. We started the decade with smart phones and social media, and we ended the decade with smart phones and social media. Performance numbers for machines kept going up but you kinda don’t notice; you buy a new phone and it’s so much faster and more responsive, 4 years later it barely loads web pages and takes forever to launch an app because mobile apps are gaseous, they expand to take up their system. A lot of handset manufacturers have given up so now there are fewer options, and they’ve converged to basically one form factor. Distinguishing features are gone, things we used to be able to do aren’t there anymore. The excitement wore off, this is how we do things now, and now everyone is here. Mobile app stores are full of phishing software, you’re probably better advised to just use the mobile browser if you can, mainstream video gaming is now just skinner boxes, and by the end of the decade social media is all about propaganda silos and/or attention draining engagement slop.

        Now we arrive in the 2020’s where we find a lot of sinisterization. A lot of the tech world is becoming blatantly, nakedly evil. In truth this began in the 2010’s, it’s older than 4 years, but we’re days away from the halfway point of the decade and it’s becoming difficult to see the behavior of tech and media companies as driven only by greed, some of this can only come from a deep seated hatred of your fellow man. People have latched onto the term “enshittification” because it’s got the word shit in it and that’s hilarious, but…I see a spectrum with the stagnation of the teens represented with a green color and the sinisterization of the 20’s represented with red, and the part in the middle where red and green make brown is enshittification.

        • Libra00
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          23 days ago

          I agree with all of that except the end: it’s definitely still greed, it’s just become easier to other your fellow man so you don’t even have to hate him, you can at best briefly consider his existence as you pave over him on your way to whatever absolute moral certitude you’re pursuing. That’s the true banality of evil: greed makes dehumanization so commonplace that advocating for awful shit to be done to your fellow human being isn’t even widely seen as evil anymore.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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      164 days ago

      I’m amazed that ads are so effective that they can make more cramming unwanted video in my face than just asking me for a couple bucks.

      • snooggums
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        334 days ago

        I have a dwindling list of brands that are not yet dead to me.

        • @taladar@sh.itjust.works
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          34 days ago

          A good rule of thumb is that if you have heard of a brand but don’t remember anything positive about them they should probably be dead to you.

    • @adarza@lemmy.ca
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      54 days ago

      they already make significantly more profits off of each ad-tier sub than they do the ad-free… yet it still isn’t enough. greedy fucking bastards.

  • ☂️-
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    383 days ago

    🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️ cmon people, stop making netflix relevant

    • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      93 days ago

      You actually want most people to pay for this crap so stuff still gets made for us to pirate. Thanks, rubes!

      • modifier
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        63 days ago

        I want to pay. I want creators to be fairly compensated for their work. I just want a structure that doesn’t require a predatory middleman that adds no value.

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        nah, i want the enshittified services to die so we can have someone else do it properly for a few years before enshittifying again, rinse repeat until capitalism ends.

  • Ghostalmedia
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    323 days ago

    Either they have great technology, or they have great entertainment,” she said. “Our superpower has always been the fact that we have both.

    Please. Your software is an image carousel and a video player.

    • 🔍🦘🛎
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      Eh to Netflix’s credit, both their backend and frontend are much better than their competition. Much better ux, and streams much more consistently. We pick up a sub for a month here and there. But AI ads will make me never go back.

      • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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        73 days ago

        Lemmy is the king of the disingenuous argument, as though somehow admitting that yes, Netflix is the gold standard for pay-to-stream, it somehow dilutes the argument against AI ads.

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          43 days ago

          …it somehow dilutes the argument against AI ads.

          I didn’t think it diluted the arguement. They were just disagreeing with the prior poster. At the end, they even state:

          But AI ads will make me never go back.

          • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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            103 days ago

            Yeah, I was agreeing with the person I responded to, and my comment related to the person they were responding to. Obviously this format can leave that a little unclear. Basically, two comments up from mine was this disingenuous argument that Netflix is trash, and that’s just wrong, but it’s an argument I see used about any number of things here on Lemmy, and to me, it dilutes the argument, because you’re clearly coming from this place of bias right out of the gate.

            I just think it’s okay to say a product itself provides a good service, but that they’re fucking it all up by injecting shit into it, to the point that, regardless of how quality the product may be, the injected shit is so repugnant that I would abandon this quality product for it.

  • @cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    543 days ago

    Between that, price hike, and some weirdly low quality content because you don’t use this or that browser, netflix really wants people to stop their subscriptions it seems.

    • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      253 days ago

      High seas baby!

      There is surely a recognisable pattern here in which people leave because of this shit and to keep the flow of money going up they then have to further reduce quality by increasing ads.

      I deleted my facebook a few weeks ago and signing in for the first time in years gave a look at what it became and it was unrecognisable.

    • @THB@lemmy.world
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      43 days ago

      Yup, I’m finishing off a couple shows and it’s on the chopping block. Easy choice