Absolute fucking clown. He’s just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is…
That’s completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game
Probably little incentive to do so given how much money they’re making from Twitch, YouTube, etc.
But that’s not even what Stop Killing Games is about…
It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.
You don’t need to open source the code to release the server binaries.
I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have “bad” code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.
Not sure if it’s still the case, but the code of balatro was a single giant file with if cases for every card
Bad code can make great games. But it will also make them very hard to maintain
Undertale also has really bad code and it’s a great game
It can alsoake fes that perform way worse than they have anything to. See yandere simulator for example
I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.
Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.
I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.
Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?
The job he got through nepotism?
Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.
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No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound and he at least does not pretend to be experienced Blizzard game developer.
Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?
He’s been working on that game for almost a decade now, too.
For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
Multiple videos.
He made multiple videos.
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.
“Not only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.”
— Thor “PirateSoftware” Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.
Yes. That clip.
I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.
Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.
I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.
Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.
This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.
I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.
Any male dominated channel that ever “gives advice” gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.
I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.
Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.
Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.
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Absolutely. For example:
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…Hitler… …sounds good.
It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.
Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.
I wish he’d stop getting any kind of attention at all. He is a fraud.
That attention is the dying embers of the torch he took to his career
Dude had entirely disappeared from my timelines before every youtuber and lemmy poster seemingly felt the need to tell me about how naughty he is.
Who is this, and why is she so sad?
I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.
Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.
The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.
This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.
whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate
It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.
Misgendering people is not funny.
According to 30 rock it is.
The difference is that 30 Rock is not doing it to be mean spirited.
I think the root comment is just memeing? But I see your point, it’s not funny. (Or it shouldn’t be.)
What does “just memeing” mean here?
Oh? You’re approaching me?
They memed the joke from the show, while i just copied the part from jojo.
I wanted to lure you into revealing your stand.
No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.
/s
Looking at the upvote/ downvote ratio you might be right
You did not get the 30 Rock quote I see.
How about let’s all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.
One of the big reasons many people are “okay” with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.
The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said “Okay, don’t see it that way, but alright”.
At the end of the day, he seems almost incapable of admitting that he ever did or said anything wrong. So people keep making fun of him, since he’s objectively proven wrong repeatedly.
I’m not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either. He is a public figure.
Ross is not my dad
yeah but he’s a daddy tho 😘
It’s not about Ross, it’s about sending a message.
It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.
Guys a fucking loser. Needs to get a real job.
He’ll gladly tell you about how he was hacker/dev whizkid at Blizzard for 7 years. Of course, he’ll leave out the fact that he was only a QA tester and a web security drone who got the job because his father is a big wig there.
He’s had quite a few “real jobs” lol
I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love it if legislation could go as far as requiring companies to open-source their engines and servers after maybe a period of time, or on ending support for the game. It could be done ID-style where the company retains full rights of the content and trademarks, which would still require players to buy the game to legally play it.
I’m aware there are a lot of cases where games include middleware that’s licensed from 3rd parties that complicate preservation efforts. But if open-sourcing the code is the path taken, there’s a simple solution for that: just release what you can, even if what’s released is in an unplayable state without the middleware. It then becomes the responsibility of any volunteers to take that code and bring it back to a usable state however they choose.
This drama highlights that there’s still a great need for better computer literacy. Anyone with even a basic education in how software, source-code, and software licensing works can tell PirateSoftware is full of shit pretty much immediately. That is, anyone educated who are themselves not grifters.
The original intent of patents was almost exactly that. You’re protected for a handful of years, after that anyone can just use the patent as instructions for recreating it.
… then Disney and other fucking greedy ghouls of corporations got involved and greased the right palms…
You should only be granted copyright protections if you can guarantee the copyrighted material can become public domain after the time period ends. This would involve giving the government a copy of all source code and assets to preserve securely. This should be a flat policy for all copyrighted material, so 3rd party involvement wouldn’t complicate things.
That’s a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately it depends on being somewhere where copyrights ever actually end.
That’s another debate, but if a company ever closed and no one claimed the IP, it could be released early.
Yessss.
I’m not proud of it but I really enjoyed the mass dunking on this guy.
Be a little proud, as a treat. You deserve it.
I am happy that it’s a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it’s Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it’s something else.
Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes
To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.
Egotism often translates to charisma and confidence, but falls apart eventually.
Also, a reminder, the “Con” in con-artist is short for confidence.
Credit where credit’s due
