The Privacy Iceberg

This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.

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(I tried my best)

The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.

The tip of the iceberg is titled “The Brainwashed” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing to hide”. The logos depicted in this section are:

The surface section of the iceberg is titled “As seen on TV” with a quote beside it that says “This video is sponsored by…”. The logos depicted in this section are:

An underwater section of the iceberg is titled “The Beginner” with a quote beside it that says “I don’t like hackers and spying”. The logos depicted in this section are:

A lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Enthusiast” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing I want to show”. The logos depicted in this section are:

An even lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Activist” with a quote beside it that says “Privacy is a human right”. The logos depicted in this section are:

The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled “The Ghost”. There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:

  • A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing “no electronics”
  • An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing “living in a log cabin in the woods”
  • A picture of gold bars, symbolizing “paying only in gold”
  • A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing “faking your own death”
  • An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing “hiding ones identity in public”

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  • @airikr@lemmy.ml
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    12 hours ago

    I am apparently the privacy activist (not using Monero, SimpleX Chat, Degoogled Chromium, or Keypass, though). I do use uBlock Origin (Gecko ffs!) and Bitwarden (self-hosted Vaultwarden). Unfortunately, I am using Telegram, but trying to move all my contacts to my own Snikket server. It’s a very slow process.

    • comfy
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      496 days ago

      To be honest, and it wouldn’t work here, but I sometime enjoy the cryptic nature of iceberg memes at the lower ranks. It’s like a scavenger hunt.

  • Matt
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    164 days ago

    Just tell the normie that you have nothing to say if you have nothing to hide. Also, why there’s no F-Droid?

  • @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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    785 days ago

    Funny how you need more and more technical knowledge to go deeper into privacy, until the last level, which is basically giving up on technology itself.

    • @wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml
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      235 days ago

      The last level is living in a cabin in the woods and writing manifestos about industrial society and the ills of technology O_o

    • The 8232 ProjectOP
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      145 days ago

      A beginner will choose what seems private, regardless of whether or not it actually is.

  • candyman337
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    545 days ago

    It’s genuinely wild that Firefox and LibreWolf are nowhere on these

    • @BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
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      195 days ago

      Probably because people above the waterline don’t know Mozilla exists, and people below have seen how things have been going lately.

      • @FriendBesto@lemmy.ml
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        115 days ago

        They do perhaps know, Firefox did have about 27%+ of the market at one point and people outside of the USA are more likely to know about it. Nevertheless, FF is currently about 3.25% of the total browser base. That is still about 160+ - 200+ million users.

      • candyman337
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        Firefox is really bad a portraying what they’re actually doing, and the privacy concerns people have with them have been widely overblown. But on top of that librewolf is a privacy oriented fork not made by Mozilla

        • @cardfire@sh.itjust.works
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          15 days ago

          For want of $100 /year Apple developer subscription , the libewolf team can’t sign binaries for Silicon M series Macs.

          I spent an hour and a half trying to get librewolf to work, and just gave up for Waterfox instead.

          On my laptop I run Firefox for some things, Watefox for others, and fall back to Chrome only as absolutely necessary when Gecko can’t get me there.

          • candyman337
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            15 days ago

            I tried waterfox and it was just too glitchy for me I had many more crashes than Firefox, and their claim to fame was that chrome extensions worked with it but I literally never got a single one working. Session buddy just saves your sessions locally, but that would not work AT ALL on waterfox.

            • @cardfire@sh.itjust.works
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              I didn’t even know that they claim Chrome extensions will work, I simply use the Firefox extensions in Waterfox.

              My browsing style is antiquated, my ADHD will only afford me about eight tabs per browser window and I usually have about four of those going at a time.

              I aggressively kill tabs to save my own mental memory more than the machine’s memory.

      • Bahnd Rollard
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        75 days ago

        I was disapponted at that, I spooled up one of those instances a few months back and its federated and is magical. If only I could convince my family to move away from that old group text grumbles in person who cosplays as a sysadmin

  • @mycamgirl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I wouldn’t put Telegram at that level. I would put it in “The Brainwashed.” Its encryption is disabled by default. You need to manually enable it on each chat, and you can’t enable it on group chats. The app gives a false sense of privacy. Telegram flaunts its end-to-end encryption, but it never mentions that it is disabled by default, and it refuses to enable the default. The final result is that people are not using the feature.

    A cryptographer and professor wrote a good piece about Telegram’s encryption, calling it “unusual” and the “non-standard authenticated encryption mode ever invented”: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?

    • The 8232 ProjectOP
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      305 days ago

      “As seen on TV” does not imply privacy, it just implies a large advertising budget. These are software that market themselves as private (and are sometimes better than nothing at all) but may still be just as bad as software on the tip of the iceberg.

    • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      24 days ago

      A man holds a laptop computer as cyber code is projected on him in this illustration picture taken on May 13, 2017.

      Did AI write this?

  • @mmhmm@lemmy.ml
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    746 days ago

    I was at the bike shop a few weeks back and a ghost walked in. He came in wearing a medical mask covered by a bandana, sunglasses, cap. They wore gloves, long sleaved pants and shirt.

    First question from staff, ‘this a robbery?’

    Ghost, ‘no, I just need 27 2.5 tubes, miss.’

    They get the tubes, he agrees. Staff asks if he has an account. Ghost says, “nope, why would I need one?” Staff says they do it for records, insurance claim assist, and discounts. Ghost goes with a John Doe, pays cash and peaces the fuck out.

    Total King, but dude was given up a lot. Half of us were drinking beers enjoying a warm evening in spring. I hope he has had some good rides.

    I can say with confidence thay he was a white male. In his 50s. About 5’10". 140 lbs-ish. If anyone wants to get any tips, good luck!

  • LeTak
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    485 days ago

    Tried the Privacy Activist and Enthusiast section. Was not really fun and you loose connection to most of your friends and family. Now I have a balanced setup with something out of each layer. Perfect balanced, as things should be

    • Hellmo_luciferrari
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      245 days ago

      I have taken my own approach; there are things from each layer that I use. Some begrudgingly but others gladly.

      The problem I faced when starting this journey is it does cut out a lot of people. And it becomes isolsting. So I did reel back a bit.

      • Natanox
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        155 days ago

        It’s equally frustrating to talk to people who’re completely entrenched in the Enthusiast / Activist section. The utter disconnect when it comes to what’s viable for most people is annoying to deal with sometimes. Statements like “Everyone who is able to read can easily learn to use Arch Linux” or “Everyone can flash their phone” do give me headaches. Was there, did both, wouldn’t recommend to my less nerdy family.

        • Hellmo_luciferrari
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          I can totally understand where you are coming from.

          I do hold the view that if you can read, you too can install GrapheneOS, or try Linux; but that doesn’t make it right for everyone. It’s a self imposed journey. I can’t expect everyone to make the same choices I do.

          That is where I will educate people as to why I chose what I chose; however I will not try to force someone down the same road.

          So totally understood.

          • LeTak
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            44 days ago

            Giving it a try is most of the time the first step. I tried GrapheneOS , used it until my device no longer received updates. Then Google Pixels got disappointing and iOS 14/15 got out with big privacy changes, so I switched the first time to Apple. I know, ironic , but it works for me. I remove most permissions from apps, use my own DNS block list enforced by MDM and if possible, self host my apps and services or use paid / open source ones. I am here on Lemmy instead of Reddit or Instagram…. I also tried Jollas SailfishOS v3 , it was ok, but this was back at the time very limited for social interactions, now with v5 it would have been better. Also good to know, at my place , Apple Pay is one of the most secure and private pay systems…. I hate that, this feels wrong.

            • Hellmo_luciferrari
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              44 days ago

              I used to run LineageOS with a lot of my own tweaks to meet my privacy needs; however I reached a point I decided it didn’t fit my needs for security. So, I went back to GrapheneOS. Which, I am 1uite haply with. Ultimately, I dream of a fully operational Linux phone of sorts; but we aren’t there yet.

              I ditched reddit, and most centralized social media. I ditched many big tech services in place of self hosting my own. And even that is mostly locked down. Very little exposed to the web. Ad blocking, as well as my own underlying upstream DNS, with a fallback that isn’t Google or Cloudflare. Services being firewalled off. Reverse proxy setup limiting access via IP:Port while also including SSL certs for local only https.

              And this list goes on; it’s a constant journey. But the hard part is to still be social. Hahaha

            • @TerHu@lemm.ee
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              24 days ago

              i also hate the idea of giving up apple pay when testing graphene. i really hope to find a somewhat ok alternative, but from what i’ve heard it seems to be the best there is atm :(

          • @Bazoogle@lemmy.world
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            35 days ago

            Yea, being able to and actually doing so are very different. Reading is the barrier to entry for most everything. Time and energy are the missing resources, though. I am a tech enthusiast, and I struggle to find time to do all the things I want.

        • @net00@lemm.ee
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          24 days ago

          The FOSS circlejerk for lack of better term is very loud on Fediverse as a whole. It’s tiring when each time anyone mentions using Windows, or Apple there’s at least one fucker telling you to swap to linux lol…

          It’s very loud so I have thought at times to switch back to reddit, where it’s at least less pervasive.

    • @TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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      155 days ago

      Everyone’s personal comfort level.

      Give tech classes to elderly. Explaining to them the iphone photo face recognition saw several of their eyes bug out of their head. Some loved it.

      Totally agree about the self ostracization. While I agree with the sentiment you’ll cripple yourself socially.

      Finding your personal comfort zone is the tech journey

      • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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        115 days ago

        Heeeey it’s me. Totally socially crippled.

        I don’t even know how to maintain relationships, don’t have an interest in trying. There’s something wrong with me.

        My only friend on this planet is my uncle.

        • @TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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          105 days ago

          I get it. Am this way to an extent. Mom for me.

          Recently attempted to be social at work. Out of the 5, 1 is worth spending additional time with.

          If you are comfortable with yourself and who you are, it may take a bit to meet people you actually enjoy.

          If you feel like something is wrong with you therapy would not hurt. Reccomend it for everyone to get them the self care tools they need/want.

          In my experience I was attempting to be social out of obligation and why it always felt like pulling teeth to do anything is because I didn’t really like the people I was with.

          Wish you luck bb 🙏

          • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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            25 days ago

            I’ve done the whole therapy thing, I just do not have it in me to have friends.

            I haven’t had a desire to make a friend since I was a kid.

            I do get lonely. I’ll have a thought that I’d like to share and I know I drive my wife crazy.

            I wouldn’t even care if I could find a way to make some money. Right now I’m a stay at home dad. That’s what my wife wanted me to do. I was making money on the stock market, not taking big risks, just making above minimum wage. Then the election happened and now that’s over.

            Thank you for caring.

            • @Bazoogle@lemmy.world
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              Being social is pretty similar to exercising. When you first try to do it after a while, it’s usually painful and not enjoyable. It isn’t until practicing and keeping at it that it will get easier and you can actually feel the benefits. Finding someone that you can actually share your hobbies with can go a long way, especially if they are able to give some sort of input as well that is beneficial to what you’re working on.

              • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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                I live deep in the Appalachian mountains and I haven’t met a single person interested in the things that I am since I was a kid.

                I’m so bad and hate socializing so much that I recently got the Mortal Kombat II deluxe arcade cabinet, the same dude kept joining my match every single time I played so I just stopped going online haha.

                He contacted me and we talked once, and that was that.

                I really like him too, I just can’t handle it. Even that tiny little bit of it.

                I don’t know why I’m like that. I’m not bad at talking to people. I’ve been told I’m damn good at it. I’ve been told I’m charismatic and all that. There’s just something broken in me.

                Probably comes from the abuse I suffered as a kid if I’m being honest. It was rough, and it trained me I guess.

                But then again, my whole family is like me. I don’t even know 90% of them, but I can tell you that 90% of them do not have Facebook. The ones that do, they don’t ever post, they don’t ever like, nothing. It’s like it’s just who we are or something.

                I have brothers who grew up in different households. Two of them never experienced any abuse as children, they were spoiled. They are just like me. They talk to no one.

                • @SirPea@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  24 days ago

                  So maybe it’s the environment you live on? If I lived in the Appalachian mountains I’d just relax alone to keep the peace, sounds comfy enough for me. People in the Nordics are like that too.

    • LeTak
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      You can disable the most bloat and remove the ads. After that , it is a very good Chrome alternative. If you have to use chromium based browsers. Feel free to name a better one that has adblocking (after manifest v3) and fingerprint protection.

        • LeTak
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          14 days ago

          Ok looks interesting, it is missing a Mac/iOS version but else, pretty promising. Only downside is, that it looks hard to recommend for family and friends that are not tech savvy.

  • @neuroneiro@lemmy.world
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    235 days ago

    Was going to say links or it never happened but you provided them! And categorized by level! Excelsior!

    Thanks also to the comments giving more information.

    So grateful for this platform. For the most part.

    • @Broken@lemmy.ml
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      85 days ago

      Steam has telemetry. They gather a ton of data on you. What details, how they use it, and how secure it is I can’t answer, but it’s clear that it’s happening.

    • @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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      65 days ago

      Until recently, your steam activity and games played are public and your relationship with other steam users can be traced even if you have a private profile.

    • @arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de
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      I could also imagine DRM, though not directly privacy related, being a thing. Like the issues of freedom and openness are probably also important to many people who value privacy and might therefore prefer GOG or something over Steam.

      Edit: I see someone else mentioned this already: https://lemmy.world/comment/16903223

    • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      35 days ago

      It collects and stores information about your system and also has your identity tied to your purchases.

      I don’t think it’s a big privacy concern as far as tracking and spying on you.

      But realize any device you install steam on then is tied to your real identity if you purchased games on that account. And can be used with data gained from other parties to determine your online activity if a government were to be able to obtain both.