The worse discord becomes, the easier it will be to convince people to switch to matrix :)
We’ve been saying that about Windows and Linux for forever.
And it is slowly happening :)
It’s happening. Slowly.
I first dabbled with Linux around 2015 by dual booting. Ran into too many issues, then I royally fucked shit up by accidentally deleting the bootloader or something, so I was pretty hesitant to try again. I finally got a hold of a surplus laptop from work so I could install Mint on it without any worry that I’d lose important data.
I’ve been using that as my primary PC for a few months now. I’ve run into some minor challenges, but nothing critical that I couldn’t figure out with a search engine.
I had another old laptop still running Windows 7 that has been having weird issues, but I’d been too lazy to backup the files so I could wipe it. I finally pulled the trigger today, fully wiped it, and installed Mint on it.
I’m not ready to preach Linux to my “normie” friends yet, but do mention it to them here and there in hopes I’ll be able to bring them over in the future.
Personally, I’m a bigger fan of Revolt… or at least the idea of it. The GUI is nearly identical to discord, the basics are all there, all they need is time to get it fleshed out and working. Also it’s open source, so that’s a plus. Edit: I should clarify, it does work. But the team is small and the current vision is large. To get Revolt to be equal with discord would probably take a couple years. That being said, if you want a strictly text and voice chat platform with built in css editing, Revolt is a good option.
Isn’t it a shame that it takes discord to get worse and not matrix to get better?
That’s just natural. Discord has a huge weight of numbers. People stay where they already are, unless there is significant motivation to move.
Matrix would have to be MUCH better than Discord in terms of features to attract people to move their whole communities and friend groups, not just simply on-par. And that’s pretty tough.
So yes - we’re basically waiting for Discord to continue its slow march into enshittification.
Yeah all of my friends are on discord, many of them its my only way to communicate with them even though we met irl. I kinda have to use it
Matrix is getting better constantly tho. I havent had any issues introducing non techie people to it.
it is getting better at least
Any service whose main strength is “OSS, privacy, freedom, security” will usually never hit mainstream success. I say this as a FOSS enthusiast.
You need funding to get better easier, which is something matrix doesnt have alot of
Matrix can’t do game streaming, which is arguably a huge part of Discord.
If you mean screensharing, then you can totally do that with game footage in element call tho. Someone i know had the same concern but it worked fine for them. This is the call software used in the element matrix client so you can try it out and tell me if it works https://call.element.io/
You mean switch to Jabber, right?
Good riddance. I’m so tired of FOSS projects using that platform as their main communication channel because it’s completely disconnected from the Web.
As a genuine fan of video games as art and multiplayer video games as digital communities, seeing everything go to Discord, even open source projects, has been really sad to watch happen over and over again.
Honestly… Lemmy would be a FAR better platform to run a video game community on than Discord.
Fuck Discord.
Like… the format of Discord is fine (except if you are going to use it to manage a software project, it needs to be designed to facilitate technical support, questions about bugs, and facilitate creating an easily searchable wiki of info along with the live chat), I am fine with the idea but Discord has used its massive popularity and capital to completely eat entire swatchs of video gaming niches and not only is that scary, Discord SUCKS as a tool for handling complex communities with lots of moving parts.
Before someone defends Discord by saying “it works great for small groups of friends” let me pre-emptively answer -> true, yes it does work great for small groups of friends, that is what it was designed for originally probably right? Ok… but small groups of friends is literally the easiest possible usecase for a communication tool, if Discord was bad at that it wouldn’t be good at anything.
How do you suppose you have a live conversation on lemmy? And don’t say make a post, and then talk in the post. Lemmy is not set up for the type of communities we want, otherwise people would already be using it for that.
Discord was recently integrated with PS5 and XBOX. Its not going away anytime soon.
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No. I tried to use it for 10 minutes and couldn’t figure out how to voice chat. No way it fills in for Disc.
Back to Ventrilo and Teamspeak it is then
IRC, XMPP, Usenet.
We need open options that aren’t beholden to a given company. Email is the last vestige of a more civilized age.
Mumble too!
Never left
I don’t want to see the ways Discord is able to become even worse than it already is
@everyone this discord channel is sponsored by raid shadow legends
Time to act like an old man yelling at a cloud as I try and convince all my friends to go somewhere else. Not that it isn’t a good idea, just that they don’t really care as much as I do.
yeah this is the problem i face. it was a fight 5 years ago to get my friends to ditch messenger for discord. they wont go thru it again…
Ugh gods damn it. I can’t enjoy anything anymore.
I wonder what’s become of Mumble these days.
I don’t get the hate… It’s a solid free product. I can’t recall it ever going down unlike every commercial product I pay for at work. It has granular access controls, plethora of capabilities through integrations and bots. Yes, it’s not FOSS. Okay… is that a requirement for any and everything? Wtf is people’s problem with it? I sold to their trust and safety team and they were the best humans I ever met. I use it for tons of personal projects, have made friends all over the world… it’s more like early internet vibes than here tbh
