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I woke up, opened Lemmy, and this was the first post I saw lmao
Same, is this a sign?
Pedantic rant, but I hate people saying they “believe” in science. Science is not a matter of belief. It’s the realm of the empirical.
Leave belief to religion and knowledge to science. Mixing the two turns out bad every time.
I quite like that expression. It seems accurate to me, since, as it was pointed out by another commenter replying to you, people do not, in fact, check the experiments themselves, ensure that proper methodology was used, etc. They simply believe what the people in authority positions are telling them, so the word believe is quite accurate - you do not actually know the reasons why certain beliefs, theories are accepted by the scientific community, you just take their word for it.
Furthermore, any scientist does the same thing to the body research that was developed before him, otherwise, every scientist would have to start over.
I think people are more talking about believing in scientific institutions to ensure credibility and good faith research. Not necessarily that an individual institution is credible, but more the scientific community as a whole can be relied on.
Science is absolute, however the way we interpret and understand it isn’t flawless and at the end of the day some level of belief has to be put into the fallible people behind it.
If science, as it is practised is flawed, by your own admission, what do you mean when you say that it is absolute?
The scientific laws that govern how everything functions from subatomic particles, to beehive structure, to gravity are absolute and unchanging. Our understanding of them is flawed and changes over time, but the laws themselves can’t be changed.
As far as I understand, science is a human endeavour, so I would certainly not say it is absolute, but I see what you mean.
Although I would say, my position is somewhat different, I do not see any reason to believe that even if these “laws” exist, science has at any level access to them, the “nature of reality”, if you will, “laws of the universe” are metaphysical concepts that can only ever be speculative, scientific laws are not interpretations of them, they are separate constructions.
Knowledge is often defined as “justified true belief.”
Flat Earthers have the science. The science is justified and true. But they refuse to believe it.
Philosophy has considered those two pretty intertwined for a rather long time.
Science isn’t something you can have, it’s a method of getting information. Flat earthers don’t use the method so instead they apply other methods, and those can give them different, empirically wrong results.
Science isn’t something you can have, it’s a method of getting information.
Oh alright mister pedantic. See sometimes sentences have things like implications in them. Saying someone “has” some arbitrary concept or system, like asking a ship"do you have navigation", doesn’t mean the person asking that thinks of navigation as a singular object.
They have the science available to them. Ie they have the ability to look at endless amounts of it.
“They have other methods”
(How annoying would it be if here I started autistically screeching about how you don’t “have” methods, you use them)
You completely misunderstood my comment, and are now pretending that one of the most common definitions of “knowledge” is different from what I said; having justified true belief. In something.
Flat earthers have justified true information available to them, but they REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT.
It’s caller amathia.
Here, read this.
https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/
But you do have to believe though. If you are just a brain in a jar, then all your empirical evidences are just illusions. At the very least you have to have faith that that’s not the case.
Not knowing the answer to something isn’t a belief problem, it’s an ignorance problem.
For millenia we were ignorant regarding the relationship between the sun and the earth. That didn’t make cosmology a belief system. We were just wrong.
Faith is not the source of science.
You are not getting what I was saying, let me put it this way, how do you know this isn’t just all a dream you will one day wake up from, and find out that the real real world is run by wizards and dragons?
That’s a gap in knowledge, not a matter of faith.
After waking up? I’ve never heard this. My brain turns right back off if I don’t put a screen in front of my face. Have I been doing this wrong all this time???
I wake up to electronic birds coming out of my magic rectangle, i gaze upon it as the tiny sun fills my shell with life for yet another day.
I used to read in bed every night. Kept me up late if it was a good story. I read ebooks or Lemmy or even watch some videos in bed now. I generally find myself going to sleep at a decent time. Having a phone seems to not really have affected me and I still get adequate sleep.
However, I’ve spoken with people that have sensed one stray photon leaking around a curtain and they can’t sleep.
Just hits people differently, I guess.
Same here! Kindle or my phone never bothered me getting to sleep
Me, who uses my phone before and after bed, with no issues getting or staying asleep: lol
Curious if you use dark mode, reduced brightness, or the feature that shifts away from blue light at night. I use all those and I think that’s why my phone use doesn’t seem to affect my sleep. In fact, I often fall asleep mid-scroll.
Dark mode and reduced brightness 24/7, and I don’t think I use a blue light filter, but the black and white night mode comes on when I charge my phone at night. But I’m also looking at regular monitors until about 10 min before I go lay down, so idk.
Interesting, thanks for the response. Same as my situation except I use the blue light filter on most if not all my devices. I am so used to it, don’t even notice that it looks kind of orange anymore.
Me, who can’t sleep regardless of whether I use my phone before/after bed: :(
Wait, morning phone bad too?
It’s bad for me, but not for that reason.
It’s bad for me because I piss a whole hour or two of my morning away doomscrolling. That makes me late to work. So I end up staying later to make up lost time, I get home late, and then I wonder why I have no time at the end of the day to do anything…
I’m doing it right now, in fact. I will stop.
Same. Gotta get it under control. I’m definitely unmedicated ADD
Lolol I maybe just sit on the throne for 5 minutes longer than I should 😂. But what, am I meant to sit on the throne and read a magazine, like a dirty commoner?? 😤
Why bother reading a curated set of interest-focused articles written by professionals when you can drink straight from the firehose of relentless negativity that is social media, right?
I mean, yeah, you get it 🤣
Perfect description of what I do most days. 😬
Aside from this meme (which I hadn’t heard before), I had heard and just confirmed with a quick Google search that studies say it causes our brains to kind of wake up too quickly rather than the natural sleep-wake progression, which can lead to anxiety. Which I guess can also cause sleep disruption later.
First thing I see having opened lemmy in bed. Good call. See you later folks!
Oh I believe Science when it says stuff like that.
I’m not saying I’ll do what they tell me to, but I believe them.
I sleep so much better after I started doing this. Seriously, try it out for like a week/month and you’ll never go back, I swear
Can confirm. I used to have sleep issues (like anyone else in the 21st century). Now I love jumping into bed because I go out like a rock
Enough of your borax pointdexter!
The joke is one science, I’ve never had a good rhythm to begin with! Insomniac my whole life, and we didn’t have smartphones when I was young (I’m old).
Ya mean on not one science right?
Sorry for being that dick, but it’d irritate me in your position not being let know.
Is this why my entire life is dissolving into bullshit and I’m failing to function on a daily basis?
I believe in science. I believe that the study show that (because I haven’t read them). I believe that I will continue using my phone because even with good efforts my body is still killing itself happily.
So, fuck you body. Dopamine rectangle goes brrrrrr.
Scientism is bad for you
Edit: To all the downvoters, I’m not dissing Science. Science is a wonderous method for finding the truth of the universe. However Scientism is the logical fallacy that all there is to know is known by science already and can only be known by science. Or in essence, treating Science as an infalliable religion, when even scientists will not do that if they value their jobs.
Hey my doc says I got one of them in my eye
What fucks your CR up way more is covering your blinds in blankets and then realizing you have become nocturnal. True story.
